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Featured The Statement on Social Justice & the Gospel.

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Revmitchell, Sep 4, 2018.

  1. Jerome

    Jerome Well-Known Member
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    Here's one of the men:

    Michael O'Fallon
    Sovereign Luxury Experiences - 'Billionaires and Barons' themed tours
    Oooh, doesn't that sound fun!
     
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    What is your point? That a man who offers custom cruises can't be part of this? The cruise is about learning of a part of history. It isn't a cruise FOR billionaires and Barrons. It is a cruise that looks at the history of political or business leaders of the 19th and 20th century.

    He has also done custom cruises for R.C.Sproul and James White.

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    The sixteen "Initial Signers" of the manifesto are:

    John MacArthur PASTOR GRACE COMMUNITY CHURCH
    Voddie Baucham VBM
    Phil Johnson EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, GRACE TO YOU
    Rod Martin FOUNDER AND CEO, THE MARTIN ORGANIZATION
    James White DIRECTOR, ALPHA AND OMEGA MINISTRIES
    David Miller COUNTRY PREACHER AT LARGE LINE UPON LINE MINISTRIES
    Tom Buck SR PASTOR FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH LINDALE
    Anthony Mathenia PASTOR CHRIST CHURCH
    Gavin Peacock ASSOCIATE PASTOR CALVARY GRACE CHURCH
    Michael O'Fallon FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT SOVEREIGN NATIONS
    Tom Ascol EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOUNDERS MINISTRIES GRACE BAPTIST CHURCH PASTOR
    Darrell Harrison ROCKDALE COMMUNITY CHURCH (RCC)
    Craig Mitchell PRESIDENT ETHICS AND POLITICAL ECONOMY CENTER
    Justin Peters JUSTIN PETERS MINISTRIES KOOTENAI COMMUNITY CHURCH
    Jeremy Vuolo PASTOR GRACE COMMUNITY CHURCH OF LAREDO TEXAS
    Josh Buice PASTOR PRAY'S MILL BAPTIST CHURCH DIRECTOR OF G3 CONFERENCE
     
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    Isn't their main pont that we as Chrsitians need to make sure what is defined as beiang social justice is how the Biblew defines it as being, and not as society views it, and to apply biblcal remedies to the situation?
     
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    No, it is a refutation of the following ideas:

    That white people are automatically both privileged and racist because they are white.
    That white people oppress black people just by their existence.
    That the SBC should be involved in worldly movements such as social justice and #mettoo.
     
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    Shouldn't Christians and churches be involved in things such as social injustices and prejudice et all, but NOT as liberals define those terms, but how God does?
     
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    The primary thing we should be doing is seeing people saved. Then discipled. In the discipling of new converts we teach them all that they need to know to properly walk in this world. We do not need to set out movements of social justice.
     
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  8. Yeshua1

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    I agree with you that the primary mandate fromm God to to be doing what you are saying here, but is thatour onlymabdate, for was not the Church very important in getting slavery undone in this nation?
     
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    Find for me in scripture the mandate to be involved in #mettoo or social justice (which by the way is pure propaganda)
     
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    I am not saying a mandate, but should we not be inloved where we can against abortion for example, and sex trafficing?
     
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    Those are true and honest issues. The social justice garbage is extreme far left propaganda. For example are you guilty of slavery because you are white and your ancestors were white at the time? Social justice says you are. Are you racist just because you are white? Social justice says you are. Are you responsible for oppressing minorities because you are white? Social justice says you are.
     
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    Oh no!

    The roster of "Initial Signers" has shrunk from sixteen men to thirteen since the manifesto was released.
    What do you think's up with that?

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    Nothing. Signatures are still there. They have just been moved from initial signers to "signers"

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    Yeah, what's up with that?
     
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    Not a clue. I searched social media posts of some of the names moved. I found nothing to indicate a reason.

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    Since their names are still on the list and not removed altogether, my first guess would be that they were incorrectly posted as initial signers.

    That's my 2 cents. Add $5. Buy coffee at Starbucks(a small one).
     
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    Isn't the cure of god for all of that not new laws and courts, but new hearts as in rebirth from above?
     
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    Please capitalize God.
     
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    I like the essence of the statement. The Bible proclaims all men are sinners. Many in christendom today are under the impression that only certain races are sinful and others are victims. Many in christendom blame their misfortune on racism instead of their own sinful decisions, which cripples them. This kind of race baiting has separated the Church for many decades and needs to stop. It's kept the Church divided and hinders the good causes you mention above.
     
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