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"The Trail of Blood..."

Discussion in 'Baptist History' started by Mark Armstrong, Sep 2, 2003.

  1. Matt Black

    Matt Black Well-Known Member
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    OK, I accept that those postings are primary sources to rufute EST ;) ; what they are not however are primary sources for the Trail of Blood, which is the subject of this thread. Again, produce primary source docs for the Trail of Blood eg: MSS relating to Christian beliefs pertaining to the Bogomils, Cathars, Paulicians etc, and you'll have yourself a new Trail of Blood 'convert'

    Yours in Christ

    Matt
     
  2. Kiffin

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    One of the most serious errors of J.M. Carroll's in his booklet was this quotation

    What he states is absolutely FALSE! :mad: He appears ignorant of Chalcedon. Chalcedon, A.D. 451 was about defending the nature of Christ again the Eutychians. The Eutychians taught that there was only one nature, the Divine, in Jesus. He said that at the moment of the Incarnation the human nature was absorbed by, or changed into, the Divine.

    The Council at Chalcedon refuted this heresy by stating,
    This is one of the most serious errors in Carroll's booklet. Chalcedon was about the nature of Jesus NOT Mary. By referring to Mary as the God-bearer is making the point that Jesus was 100% human in that He had a real mother just like all people. Mariolatry is a later invention.

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  3. Matt Black

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    If anything, it's Ephesus (432) which unwittingly sowed the seeds of later Mariolatry, by calling Mary the theotokos ('bearer of God'). Now, this was not a statement about Mary per se, but in fact a statement about Jesus: some people (later to become the Nestorians)had been saying that Jesus had two personalities -divine and human - and that Mary had been the mother only of the human person. Ephesus refuted this by stating that Jesus was one undivided Person, both human and divine, and hence Mary was rightly the 'God-Bearer'. Unfortunately, this Christological statement was twisted subsequently into Mary being afforded the title 'Mother of God' and her being venerated in the beginnings of Mariolatry.

    Chalcedon (451) as Kiffin pointed out was to do with how Jesus' one Person (Ephesus) was both divine and human. The correct answer given by the Council was that He was one Person in two Natures -human and divine - as against the Eutychian/Monophysite heresy, which held that He was only divine and merely had the appearance of being human.

    Yours in Christ

    Matt
     
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