The Truth vs. The Lie

The Bible also only talks about one part of the world. It says nothing about what is happening in those other parts, including North, South, and Central Americas. We know for fact that people, humans inhabited North America long before Europeans discovered these shores. We have historical fact that certain animals of a specific age and condition inhabited Canada and some States. There is a "farm" totally dedicated to the bones and structures of such pre-historic animals.

They also fit into what man thinks helped to develop the land mass and shapes of the land and waterways. The Canadian Shield is one such land structure that was formed by massive freezing, then flooding and resultive erosions.

I can account for these through the evolutionary process (Not Darwin) as a Theistic evolutionist, and I don't deny any portion of scripture. If I never mentioned evolution, I might be mistakenly labelled a fundamentalist!!!!!

Cheers,

Jim

 

Gen 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein [is] the breath of life, from under heaven; [and] every thing that [is] in the earth shall die.


ALL that has the breath of life was destroyed save the 8 in the ark and the animals with them.

If the flood was confined to one area, then all flesh would not have died.

 

all flesh known in that part of the flood area did die. It was a localized flood.

Cheers,

Jim

 

It doesn't say that.

From Answers in Genesis Website:

Perhaps you could answer these questions?

 

Those who believe in a local flood do have answers for those tentative questions that presuppose certain conditions. Some countries do experience horrible flooding. A flat earth may present a flooding problem. A globe has much less risk.

It is like the crossing of the Red Sea or properly the Reed Sea.One is crossable the other is not.

Cheers,

Jim

 

So what are your answers? Why did God put birds on the ark? (for starters)

Why did God tell Noah to build an ark? God told Noah 120 years before the flood what was going to happen. Couldn't he have traveled to a safe place in that length of time?

 

Noah was only aware of the land around him. Where are all the birds listed, and where are the so-called pre-historic animals? I am not going to get involved because it is the same as the calvinism vs arminian debate,endless.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Well, then just tell me why God told Noah to build an ark. Why would he need an ark, which was gigantic by the way, if he had 120 years to travel to dry land and avoid the judgment of God?

 

Give up Amy, some don't want to take God's word at face value. Don't cast your pearls... To most folks the word "all" means all and not some localized area.

 

So what are you trying to prove?

Noah came long after Adam and Eve. Moses came long after Noah and after Abraham: Yet he is credited with the writing of the first five books of the Bible which tell the story of the aforementioned as well as of his own demise. Whether actually penned by Moses or accumulated writings or recounted history inspired of God and compiled by Moses.... except (with a qualifying 'perhaps' at this point) for the epitath of his demise and intro into the historical accounts of the nation Israel. The first five books, Genesis in particular, was concerned with the beginnings and regards the whole earth before God chose a people through which He would work and reveal himself as he developed them into a nation. Either the Bible is inspired Word and God's Word is true.... or we have nothing to base faith upon. If the Bible is inspired.... then would God tell us a lie? If the OT weren't true, wouldn't Jesus have told us or have made corrections? In Psalms God gave us the promise of preserving his Word. Isn't He capable of doing this though there are many translations? If the Bible says the whole world suffered under the flood and only 8 were preserved.... why is this so difficult to understand? The tower of Babel followed the flood..... and the confusion of languages. As the continents look like they could have all been compressed together at one time.... how do we know when and at what point they were separated? Clearly the universal flood was a monstrous event and I have little doubt but what with only eight people to report their amazing salvation and many generations which followed.... just what occurred during those years following Noah to Abraham are a mystery concerning the developments on and in the earth.

While the so called 'proofs' of evolution by scientific (with an agenda) hoaxes were being created and authenticated under their own careful controls and supervision...... before the disproof became evident.... Lucy, piltdownman, etc.... the Christian community was confused and with the propaganda of science supposed to be always 'pure' and 'objective' being already taught at university and the Biblical report receiving a biased 'scholary' challenge.... the gap theory was proposed and started to be generally accepted as a bridge of compromise for science and theology to agree.... BUT, there were some who remained steadfast that what the Bible taught was the truth... and there were some who were driven to become scholars in their own right, fully capable of examining and challenging the evidence of both sides... who were able to defrock the fakery of prior claims by evolutionists.... but too late to prevent the fame and spread of misinformation accepted by academia which continues to perpetuate the fraud by repeating lies in the text books. Had the evolutionary scientist exposed their own failures ........they would have created in lessor learned people a healthy skepticism for their word and encouraged the expansion of faith of those who believe in God to those who were borderline seekers. This they would not do and could not do cause it goes against their god.... which is of this world..... which wants to make the creature and the creation gods unto themselves and humanism is its religion. The Gap theory is a created compromise, developed and accepted by many in christendom to explain what was being 'authenticated' and published, but which was built upon false evidence, which at the time was unprepared to challenged and appeared so true that it shook the foundations of the word on which faith in Jehovah God and Jesus, his son, is established.

If the church had more established faith in God's Word, and had given patience until it had the opportunity to examine and proof the evidence for itself through the scholarship of educated and knowledgeble laity..... it might not have lent any credence to the evolutionary theory by proposing its own theory, though it might have suffered a temporary setback to the challenge of faith. On the other hand, it is possible that this Gap theory provided a cover to those who would enter the scientific studies with questions and gain experience, knowledge, and sufficient credibility..... whether recognized by scientific peer groups or not.... sufficient knowledge to shoot open holes which were sealed in the sieve built by the evolutionist theory.

This presents a lesson which we would all be wise to learn very well as the darkness deepens upon our planet and the delusions and deceptions build, that all is not as it appears to be: Deception is in the presenting and the withholding of news, information, events, the promises of people, and the meaning of words twisted from their true meaning to present an illusion: We may have freedom of speech.... but the media is free...... free to those who control it and the ads which pay for it..... free to express and limit what is published according to those who own it. There is no balanced reporting. An attempt to present divisions of difference between two or more points of view.... a seductive difference is shown to one side.... and a purposeful placement of either an inept spokeperson or avoidance of issues, or a limit to the depth of recount occurs which may cause some to think they received balanced information and not realize that they were pawns in the grand scheme of keeping their reliance and centering on what they are being told to accept, rather than freely judgeing and maintaining a healthy skepticism for themselves.

There has been a conspiracy going on since the beginning of time.... a warfare which began in the heavenlies, when the archangel Lucifer revolted against the authority of God... and 1/3 of the host were exiled from heaven..... and are now doing all they can through every form of darkness to enter in and control the direction of those in leadership within this damned world system to organize and unify and bring every person under their authority against God. The devil wants to control and be worshipped and shake us at every weak point of our faith..... if that is possible. But, Praise Be to God, we have a Blessed Savior, a Blessed Promise, a Blessed Hope and Assurance.... that though all as we know it is taken away.... and either we are preserved out of the trials which will come ahead..... or among those who will be preserved through those trials..... God will not fail either in His character, nor his Word and He will and does preserve us. In Him we have the victory! There is no other ending!

 

So the promise not to destroy the world anymore with a flood is valid only for that region?

Can't be. I see His bow in the sky here, so this area must have been under the same condemnation and judgement as that one.

 

Troll, it means no such thing.

 

It means that absolutely. Darwinist's have usurped and now own the term, evolution. To say that evolution, however small, occurs within a species is to yield legitimacy to their other claims, whether you acknowlege that fact or not.

 

Supply proof that that phrase has been copy written by darwinists....that statement was so ignorant I shouldn't have even responded...

 

Just say "evolution" in a crowd, and what will people think of? It's just like the word "gay."