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Theistic evolution or non-theistic evolution

Discussion in 'Creation vs. Evolution' started by Robert H, Jun 16, 2003.

  1. Robert H

    Robert H New Member

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    I'm just wondering, is this board mainly to discuss theistic evolution vs creationism, or is it non-theistic evolution? The resaon I ask, is that everyone who posts to these boards, is supposed to give a faith statement. Therefore I can't imagine that any atheists would be hanging out here. Is it fair to say that everyone here who believes in evolution is still a Christian?
     
  2. Meatros

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    Of course. Their might be some on this board who feel it is their duty to strip away the Christianity from whomever they deem, but in the end it's God's choice and not theirs.

    AFAIK-Everyone here is a Christian.
     
  3. Paul of Eugene

    Paul of Eugene New Member

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    I'm certainly a Christian, and I post on the side of evolution around here . . . I'm even Baptist, imagine that.
     
  4. NeilUnreal

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    Ditto here, Southern Baptist "evolutionist."

    -Neil
     
  5. john6:63

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    IFB; Bible Believing Christian.

    (Genesis 2:1) “Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.”
     
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    Roman Catholic
     
  8. Phillip

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    Some of the answers here are very sad. Why don't we just do away with Genesis 1 - 11 and go on from there.

    The Bible is very specific in the early chapters of Genesis, it seems sad for someone to claim it is all made up.

    Does everybody who believes in theistic evolution believe that these "ape men" finally reached a point and then God gave them a soul or they evolved that too?
     
  9. UTEOTW

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    You would be correct to say that the main thrust of debate centers on theistic evolution and young earth creationism and all the subtopics that come about.

    I do not know of anyone on here who is not Christian. In fact, you may have noticed that this is a "Christian Debate Forum (All Christians)" meaning that everyone here has at least convinced the administrator that they are of a Christian denomination. No one seems so far out that I would suspect them of having come here under false pretenses. I think that most here, even those that support evolution, are Baptist.

    Notice above that I expanded your intial wording to say "young earth" creationism. That is because since we that are here are all Christian, I suspect that we all would all be some form of Creationist. We just do not all believe in a recent creation or in a literal interpretation of Genesis. A number of us do not believe that the evidence seen in the world and universe God has given us is consistent with a recent creation and therefore that there is a different meaning for us in the creation account than just a retelling of history. Others strongly disagree. And that is the crux of the debate here, how old is the creation and how did the things we see here today get here.

    This forum can be a bit tense. There are some that I wish would stick to more facts and less name calling before we all get on the bad side of the administrator and get this forum shut down (again). But in the end, we are all on the same side, even if it does not sound like it. I lurked on this board for a long time before I joined and I have been an infrequent poster. There used to be a time when this forum was full of atheists and it was a very rough time then. It was eventually shut down for a while and then came back in a manner where all posts had to be emailed to the administrator who would review it before adding it. That did not attract much attention. I am grateful that we have the forum back to its current state, even with the occasional un-Christian responses.

    If you feel like it, jump on in, the water's fine. Most of us don't bite. Also, I have painted with a very broad brush here so don't think what I say is close to universal, just an opinion.
     
  10. Deacon

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    Welcome to the Creation vs. evolution forum, Robert H! you make a good point. The title is a bit of a misnomer. We’re all creationists here, but we’re creationists of all different flavors.

    God’s Word isn’t a manual on how He created the heavens and the earth. My printer manual has more detail. [​IMG] The starting point of the Bible is God and we are all on the same page at that point. Concerning the how of creation though, we all have our various opinions. It’s my opinion that we will all be awed and humbled when God’s creative powers are finally revealed.

    I’m closest to a view called Progressive Creationism. Not quite full-blown theistic evolution, but not a 6-day creationist either. It can be considered a “literal” view, but that’s debatable!!! [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Rob
     
  11. Meatros

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    Quite frankly I think it's overwhelmingly obvious that Genesis isn't a history/scientific text. The point of Genesis isn't about how old the earth is.

    You know, I keep hearing the "very specific" aspects of Genesis. The fact is, it's not very specific. How did plants live before the sun? God? Maybe, but the bible doesn't say *how* or *why* this was so.

    Everyone has their own opinion. Mine is that God imbued man with a soul, it didn't evolve. I think that the difference between chimps and humans is a profound one.
     
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