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There Would No Problem...

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by TCGreek, Oct 1, 2007.

  1. TCGreek

    TCGreek New Member

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    1. The issue always comes up: How can we understand Paul without contradicting James and vice versa?

    2. However, I think if English translations had translated James 2:21 similar to Matt 11:19, we would have less of a problem and even if Martin Luther would not have stumbled the way he did.

    3. Here's how the issue can be avoid:

    a. εδικαιωθη η σοφια απο των εργων αυτης (Matt 11:19) - "Wisdom is vindicated by her works" (NASB).

    b. αβρααμ ο πατηρ ημων ουκ εξ εργων εδικαιωθη ανενεγκας ισαακ τον υιον αυτου επι το θυσιαστηριον (James 2:21) - "Was not our father Abraham justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar?" (TCG)

    4. To vindicate is to prove the virtue of, which would have been a better choice in James rather than to translate εδικαιωθη as "justified," since it can be done.

    5. So the root of Abraham's justification is his faith alone (Gen.15:6), but the fruit of his justification is the offering of Isaac (Gen. 22).
     
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  2. annsni

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    I can't read Greek but if I am understanding correctly, it should probably read: "Was not our father Abraham VINDICATED by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar?"

    Wow - that makes a LOT more sense.
     
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    "And yet this aforementioned wisdom was shown to be such as it should be, righteous, this demonstration having its source in its works."
    WUESTNT​

    "Vindicate" is also found in the NAB, NRSV, HCSB, and the NET bibles.

    Vindicate (verb):
    Clear of accusation, blame, suspicion, or doubt with supporting proof
    Show to be right by providing justification or proof

    Synonyms
    justified
    exonerated
    cleared
    absolved

    Rob
     
  4. tjfkbrawny

    tjfkbrawny New Member

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    What are all those squiggly letters, Greek?
     
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