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This is change?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by carpro, Nov 21, 2008.

  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    How many Clinton retreads are going to work for Obama?:laugh:

    So far I don't believe he's mentioned anyone from outside the beltway for any place in his administration.

    This is the "change" he was talking about.

    People that voted for him based on his platform of "change" have been had.
     
  2. Don

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    I was just reading a statement from Bob Woodward on this very subject, and burst out laughing.

    Of course it's change -- we're changing back to a Clinton administration!
     
  3. carpro

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    Do you have a link?

    I'd like to read it.
     
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    I just heard the pick for Treasury Secretary. I had never heard of the guy. Is he a Clinton holdover?
     
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    Is he the guy from Arizona?
     
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    No, he is connected to the Federal Reserve in New York at present. I was just wondering if he served in the Clinton administration.
     
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    Dunno - heard something on the Irish news tonight crediting his pick with an upsurge in the US Stock Market today.
     
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    The name is Timothy Geithner.
     
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    This may become known as the Obama/Clinton administration or just the Clinton Shadow Presidency.
     
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    http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202426061784
     
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    And the Bush/Clinton dynasty carries on
     
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    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15617.html

    The Clinton band is back together

    By BEN SMITH & CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN | 11/14/08 4:48 AM EST Text Size:



    Here's how you can tell the campaign is over and the transition has begun: Barack Obama's aides now wear suits and ties, their desks are in the Federal Building on 6th Street in Washington — and Clintonites are everywhere.

    Obama's victory in the general election produced what his primary campaign couldn't: A swift merger of the Clinton Wing of the Democratic Party with the Illinois Senator's self-styled insurgency. The merger began, during the campaign, in the policy apparatus — which is now rapidly becoming the governing apparatus.

    The absorption of the Clinton government in waiting represents Obama's choice not to repeat what he and his advisors see as an early mistake made by the last two presidents: Attempting to wield power in Washington through an insular campaign apparatus new to town.

    Obama's first major appointments have been Democrats who worked for President Clinton and did not endorse him in the primary: Transition chief John Podesta and Rep. Rahm Emanuel, who will be White House chief of staff, stayed neutral, and Ron Klain, who will be Joe Biden's chief of staff, backed Biden. Obama, advisers told Politico, may even be weighing offering Hillary Rodham Clinton herself the Cabinet plum of Secretary of State.
     
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    Anything that takes us away from the failed policies of George W. Bush is CHANGE enough for me.
     
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    So is Obama unable or unwilling to chose his own people? You gotta wonder whats going on, he beat Hillary, and is now chosing her and her husbands people.
     
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    Debts must be paid
     
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    He served as Under Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs in 1998 to 2001 under the Treasury Secretaries of the Clinton administration.
     
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    Some feared his 'change.'
    Some embraced his 'change.'
    Neither are going to get it.

    Status quo ad nauseam. Has a nice ring doesn't it ;)?
     
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    Obama critics were screaming before the election that he had no executive experience ... now that he is picking people who have had executive experience the same people are screaming again. Seven out of the last ten presidents have been Republican, so the pool of Democrats who have had executive experience is basically from the Clinton administration. The Carter people are a bit on the old side for these jobs. So, what is it you want, people with no experience, or people with experience?

    That should make some critics breath easier.

    I don't know about you Don, buy my personal economy was much better off under Clinton than it is now under Bush. Clinton may have been morally bankrupt, but times were much better under his administration. He was running a budget surplus, now we have become the largest debtor nation in the world. What a drop from 1980 when we were the largest creditor nation in the world.
     
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    There are lots of people with experience who didn't work in the Clinton adminstration and who haven't worked in Washington.


    Clinton benefited from the dotcom boom and an adversarial Congress. The economy, overall, has been good under Bush. The housing market collapse, gambling in the stock market, easy credit, and the like are what has done it in. None of that really has much to do with Bush, unless you wanted an executive order for people to stop being stupid with money.

    Bush has done very little well, but as always, the presidents don't have much to do with the economy.
     
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