"This is my body which is ________ for you?"

Personally, I don't have a problem at all with the KJV's reading here. I agree with Timothy1769's comments that a body can be broken without the bones being broken: the flesh was torn, just as the bread was torn.

But it is an interesting textual issue.

 

tiny,

All the writers were inspired by the Holy Ghost, it's not just a case of each man relying on his memory or transcribing available oral traditions.

 

Of course they were, but the Holy Ghost just didn't magically place phrases in each writer's head.

He allowed them to use their Vocabs, and memories.

One of the biggest proofs the Bible was Holy Ghost inspired was the fact that He used the writers memories.

Some of the writings occured 30 to 50 years after Christ.
No man apart from the Holy Spirit could have such precise memory as say, John.

The Holy Ghost inspired, not dictated.

 

Perhaps the Holy Ghost did supernaturally place phrases in their heads, who can say? In any event the Holy Ghost would not lead them into error or contradiction. But perhaps I'm reading more into your previous post than you intended.

 

Well, that would make sense ... if you didn't believe in verbal inspriration.

One set of texts says " is broken" and another says "is". Now, in context, it doesn't really matter so much. The message is much the same. But if you hold to verbal inspiration, you have to pick. What did God say? </font>[/QUOTE]Of course I hold to verbal inspiration, which is not in any way inconsistent with my above post. Jesus, in some way, said all of those things. There are likely a number of ways the problem can be solved, and I suggested one.

 

This is a violation of BB rules. You have no right to infer that Tim is a cult member.

 

In some way. That is not exactly "verbal inspiration." </font>[/QUOTE]No, not meaning he more or less said those things, but that there is a solution to problem whereby Jesus used all of those inspired words. My post above provides a possible solution that maintains verbal inspiration.

 

The King James English in this case of the word “broken”, and its various meanings and nuances remain to this day.

For instance one of the charges brought against Jesus by the Pharisees:

"...he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God."

OR

“...and the scripture cannot be broken”

To be fair and in this case, I don’t see any contradiction.

Consider the following:

Psalm 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

Or

Psalm 147 He healeth the broken in heart, and bindeth up their wounds.

Ecclesiastes 12
6 Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.
7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Jesus body was “broken” in that He willingly endured the physical pain, suffering, and exhaustion of the scourging and crucifixion to the point that His mortal body "gave up the ghost".

1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

 

tiny knows too well I was just joking with him, but it seems you allow rsr to constantly do the same. I placed the "slurr" as you call it in quotation marks. Also you have "violated" your own rules. If you feel I need to "majically disappear" from BB then why haven't you warned me by PM, instead you make it a public matter ? Thanks Doc, I love you too.

Since you and others complained about the length of my previous "screen name" I decided to shorten it, now yall don't like it either, just what is a guy supposed to do? It seems the function to change ones screen name is allowed by BB rules, but not to the discretion of the rules maker, or enforcer.

Since it's the childish intention of the said members, I'll just honour your request.

 

I was not talking about you behind your back, I can't say the same about you though, like SEC for instance ring a bell?

Your remarks towards my screen name are derogatory, intentional slurrs towards me, if that's not against the rules then I'm also convinced of the persistent twisting of the rules in your defense, but whatever.

Your remark,"What have I done to transgress the rules" shows your attitude, but still, whatever.

It is also stated in the rules if you have a specific problem with another member to take it out in a PM, but you seem to be able to stretch that rule in your favor as well, whatever.

 

Whatever, rsr, whatever. Let's get back on topic, unless you really intend on pursuing your personal problems further, in violation of the rules still the same, whatever.

 

Whatever.

 

His feet, and hands were pierced. The flesh on his head was torn with thorns. A spear punctured his side. If that ain't broken......

I'm not throwing out my KJV.

But the claim that those who read the NIV will need to apologize to God really does not do the KJVO position any good. I certainly would not want to associate with anyone who makes such rediculous claims.

If that were the case, we would ALL need to apologize for not reading the Hebrew, Greek, & Aramic.

I really hate these discussions, you guys make the "Other Religions" forum look like Sesame Street. There is enough Holy Spirit in the NIV to save the entire planet. Like it or not.

 

I fail to see where anyone did that actually, it has been me that was accused of that, but I never said it, rsr? Got any "notes"? uh? Whatever.