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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Alan Gross, Jun 25, 2022.

  1. Alan Gross

    Alan Gross Well-Known Member

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    Not my thoughts, just posting for discussion. Please abide by BB rule to not call someone "lost", etc., because we don't know.

    Are Freewillers Brethren?
     
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    Define freewillers.

    Define Brethren
     
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  3. Alan Gross

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    "Freewillers" disagree with, "Once Saved; Always Saved".

    Is that true.

    Do Freewillers define themselves this way?
     
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    Oh, You are speaking about the denominational Baptist Group called "Freewill Baptist?"
    I don't know about them.
     
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    I am just asking about anyone who disagrees with, "Once Saved; Always Saved".

    When do you know if to call them, "Brethren".
     
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    In a sentence or two, define salvation as you understand it.
     
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    A SPIRITUALLY DEAD SINNER IN TRESPASSES AND SINS IS GRANTED CONVICTION OF THEIR SINFUL CONDITION, BEFORE GOD, (sorry caps) through the Word of God ( the Schoolmaster) and the Holy Spirit. They are Given the Twin Doctrines of Repentance and Faith and are sealed, Kept by The Power of God, Adopted into the Family of God, by the New Birth Regenerating their soul, Spiritually.

    I John 4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

    I John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
     
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    OSAS is not a doctrine I would withhold fellowship over.

    Generally, only issues of first importance surrounding the person and work of Jesus would warrant such action, imo.

    peace to you
     
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    Well isnt one eternally saved by Christ due to the Hight Importance and Value and Success of His Person and Work of the Cross.? Just asking
     
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    Those who deny doctines of grace and Covenant theology regarding salvation!
     
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    When one 'Freely believes" that they can "quicken themselves from the dead" like dry bones coming to life on there own, the generally 'teach' that that 'salvation' can be forfieted, as in having the ability to 'snatch themselves out of God's Hand', provided they sin or backslide enough.

    In that case, they are no longer coming to me on The Name of Jesus, right?

    Should they tell me to not consider them a brother, at that time?
     
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    The Saved soul is Given, 'The Earnest of the Spirit' and Christ Everliveth to Pray for them. With Loving Kindness has He Loved them; He has Loved them with an Everlasting Love.
     
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    There are passages of scripture that can be interpreted (wrongly imo) as a person can lose their salvation.

    I see this issue as a matter of conscious that is not a denial of essential doctrine concerning Christ.

    peace to you
     
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    That is an extra Biblical meaning being applied the term. 1 John 3:2, Romans 8:23.
     
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    Yes sir, I was just saying that, a "dead in trespasses and sins" soul can not, "Quicken" themselves to "Eternal Life"!?!
     
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    I am of the point of view the hearing of the living word of God enables a person to choose to believe. John 17:17, Romans 10:17-18, Hebrews 4:12, Matthew 4:4.
     
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    This is fun. You may not think so, but I found this and I think it's cool.
     
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    The Word Convicts of sin and Converts the heart, when Repentance and Faith in Jesus Blood is Given; that is the New Birth, Quickened by the Spirit' of God, from the DEAD,

    THEN, a newly saved soul may show evidence of the Work of Salvation that God alone had already Accomplished in their soul, by "believing", "trusting", "chooseing", etc.

    "You had HE Quickened who were dead".
     
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