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Tiller the Killer Web site

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, Jun 1, 2009.

  1. OldRegular

    OldRegular Well-Known Member

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    The fact that this serial butcher was killed in church says much about the state of the churches in this country. If all professing Christians, if all denominational groups, would condemn abortion then it would have been stopped years ago. But they didn't and still don't, even some on this Forum. Sadly some denominations advocate abortion.

    How sad. How despicable
     
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    what does this say about christianity? or rather how people live what they say they beleive?
     
  3. LadyEagle

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    The "doctor's" web site has been recovered through web archives. It was supposedly taken down upon his death. Here it is so we can see what services he offered:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20080118044837/http://www.drtiller.com/

    From Tiller's web site:

    "Specialists in 2nd Trimester Elective and 2nd/3rd Trimester Therapeutic Abortion Care"

    From his web site:
    And this is a gem, complete with picture of the "chaplain."

    To the post:

    Exactly. There is no dignity in stabbing a baby in the back of the skull and sucking out it's brains or ripping them apart piece by piece. While some may feel sympathy for the butcher's family (I don't), that family has lived quite comfortably (perhaps by millions of dollars) off of the gruesome, horrendous, painful deaths of thousands of innocents this man murdered. We prosecuted Nazi's for their deeds, yet....

    Yet, this evil man gets a pass from the "evangelical" community, even his death mourned by some here on the BB? Sorry, I can only be relieved this monster is dead, just as I am relieved by the death of any serial killer like Ted Bundy, or Hitler, Pol Pot, Saddam, and the other monsters of genocide throughout history.

    Your misguided post shows where your sympathy lies -- with the butcher, not the thousands he butchered. :tear: But don't dismay, another so-called doctor has already stepped up to the plate to fill the void of his death and keep the butcher business going as usual after the funeral. Sad. :tear:
     
  4. donnA

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    and people are defending this here

    even more sad


    there is nothing but evil in abortion and those who in anyway support it
     
  5. OldRegular

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    I believe that many churches today are no more than social clubs and cater to people of like temperament. I believe 1 Samuel 4:21 describes many churches of today [If we substitute the word church for Israel]
     
  6. saturneptune

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    Maybe the question is a mute point since he is dead, but what kind of a local congregation would vote into its membership, the body of Christ, a monster of this type? It is not like he did it once, or used to do it, it was an ongoing process.

    By the way, I hope the murderer of the doctor is prosecuted to the full extent of the law, but one thing for sure, this so-called victim will not kill any more innocent lives.
     
  7. Agnus_Dei

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    Tiller was a member of the Reformation Lutheran Church, which is part of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) a very, very liberal christian movement. So that should explain his membership question...

    In XC
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  8. saturneptune

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    Yes, where I live, there are some but not a lot of liberal churches. No doubt I do not have a good overall perspective of the state of the Christian churches. Each denomination has its own liberal section, the Presbyterian is PC-USA, and ours is I believe called the American Baptist Convention.
     
  9. Magnetic Poles

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    This voting on members is something I have only seen in Baptist churches. There are probably others that do it, but I have not seen it. In the United Methodist Church, I took confirmation classes. I also would add, I have never seen a single no vote on any prospective member in a Baptist church.
     
  10. annsni

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    That would probably be because a person who was unqualified never GOT to a vote. They would have been denied beforehand.
     
  11. Bro. Curtis

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    I haven't either, but that is because prospective members are well-vetted before bringing them before the congregation. Praise God for Church leaders who take their calling seriously.
     
  12. OldRegular

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    That has not been what I have observed in the churches where I have been a member.
     
  13. Alive in Christ

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    Agreed.

    God have mercy.
     
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    What have you observed ?
     
  15. LeBuick

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    Membership by confession of faith and baptism.

    Ac 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
    31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

    I missed the screening process...
     
  16. Alive in Christ

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    I would assume that what Bro Curtis means when he says "screening process" is that the pastor, or elders, etc...have spoken with the ones desiring membership and have determined that they have indeed "believed in the Lord Jesus Christ", they have "confessed" Him and been water baptized as a visible sign of their "death" and resurrection into new life in Christ. Either there in that meeting, or years before.

    Thats what we do at our church.
     
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    I clicked on the links (on the 1st page) to the pictures of aborted (murdered) babies. (post #4)

    It made me sick to my stomach, and my heart.

    Those pictures should be shown (against their will, if they object) to every president, vice-president, senator, governor, representative, lawmaker and supreme court member of this country.
     
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  18. saturneptune

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    Each local church is autonomous and each can decide how to receive members. We vote when they present themselves for membership by letter, statement, or baptism, as do most churches in the area. This monster would not have gotten past the front door, and would not attend a church in which he was a member.
     
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    Right there is the screening process. :)
     
  20. OldRegular

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    Within a space of weeks in one church [of two] where I have been a member :

    1. I saw one mother practically dragging her reluctant child down the aisle.

    2. Sometime later I saw a mother intermittently give her child a shove down the aisle.

    In the second church I have been present when one child in a row of children would jump up and walk the aisle to be followed by others like a row of ducks.

    In each of these cases these children were voted into membership, sometimes with just a round of applause even when the bylaws called for a motion and second.
     
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