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The way I see it, God didn't give me the spirit of fear so I refuse to surrender to it.

 

That is one of the best quotes I have seen in a while. There is nothing conservative about the Republican party in its present form. It is merely less liberal than the Democrats.

 

Yesterday at work a friend of mine, that I have comfortable conversations with daily, came up to me after I had made a statement to another person in the room and in jest said, with arms spread at his side, "WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY MOTHER?!"

Man, my heart sank to my heel. I felt a sudden fear that I had offended this man. And fear was all over my face and the whole room burst into laughter.

We have not had all manner of fear removed from us. And in this political season it is time to be fearful of those that are shackling our nation with such debt that will banish the blessings of liberty for generations to come.

 

You were concerned about physical pain and not the economic future. While none of us wants pain, everyone flinches at it's presence. I don't worry about Fascism or any of the other "...ism's" the right is throwing around because there are people who survived under all those forms of government. Are we saying God will leave us if we become Fascist? Then why do you fear it and why call it dangerous?

I can't control what's in my future but I sure know who holds my future. Tomorrow is something I refuse to fear. We survived the Reagan/Bush tax cuts, we survived the Clinton NAFTA and Mortgage decisions and we'll survive this administration.

And you don't need fear or to encourage others to fear to survive... Just keep the faith.

Please keep focus my Christian Bothers and sisters, fear comes from the devil. We should neither use or surrender to his tactics or you are giving him victory...

 

Your statements are true which is why I have been saying some of the things I keep saying. I wish y'all would listen...

No one is truly admitting to being republican at this point in time. You have conservatives who think Republicanism is too liberal and you have the others who now think the conservatives have made their party too... conservative.

What does that give you? A divided right with no clear direction or common philosophy...

 

So you don't have any fear of voting for advocates of abortion. I for one do fear that the chastening hand of God will be upon us all for this generation's national sin. And don't set there and say that God does not judge national sins. Just look what happened to Nazi Germany. Many a Christian likely served in the armies of Adolf Hitler and died. The very same judgments will befall this generation if it does not repent and turn from these atrocities.

That fear keeps me from ever voting for any candidate that will promote death as a choice.

 

Nope, because in my view God alone can give and take life. That's why some abortions and suicides fail... That's why some people get shot and die and others get shot and live. And when your time comes, you too shall meet your maker.

God's chastisement is for correction. It is not a random or non-purposeful battering, it is an expression of his Love for his Children and punishment for those who fail to repent.

Sorry but I have to say God doesn't judge national sins like he did with Israel. Salvation is no longer a national thing. Relationships with God are no longer national. Salvation is individual act. It is not about what the nation does, it is about you and your relationship with God. Christian died on both sides of that and every recent war. If there were a Christian who done wrong by the Jews because of their following of Hitler, they will be judged individually and not the Nazi's as one. Hitler will have his individual moment before the righteous judge. Each one of us will die and after that the judgment.

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God declares we can win this thing with Love. I believe Him and will fight with a confidence that we already have the victory...

 

Then there should be no problem with my firing a gun at you anytime I wish to do so. Heck, I wouldn't be taking your life, God would right?!

Does Love say to vote for someone who advocates murder? Or will you only vote for someone who advocates murder of unborn children? Would you vote for a person that was ok with parents murdering their 13 year old child because they were making their life inconvienent?

No, Love is more than the warm fuzzy group hug love that you want to make it out to be. Love also means loving precious life so much that you would give your own for it. Love means not voting for political candidates that don't value life as much as you.

Love came to this earth and died for your sins and mine.

 

Wow !!!! LeBuick, that is some mind that you have !!!

You vote for a abortion advocate for President, then deflect responsibility by saying that God alone can give and take life.

So God is responsible for all abortions, murder, out of wedlock children, and coming soon to your neighborhood... clones !!!

Kids - let this be a lesson to you - don't do drugs.

 

Salvation has never been a national thing. You might want to study upon that before your next sermon. It came to the world via Israel in the OT now it comes to the world via the church. But the gospel has always been for and to the world.

 

Correct, you firing a gun at me doesn't mean I will die. Many people have been shot and lived.

 

All I have to say is you are one weird guy if you have no problem with someone shooting a gun at you! :laugh:

 

I am not deflecting responsibility, I am stating facts. God is the creator and sustainer of all life in this universe.

I'm not saying God is responsible for all abortions but have you ever heard of a miscarriage? How about a still born? Death is as much a part of life is being born and more than just babies die. People of all ages die continually. Young and old.

 

I stand corrected... Perhaps I would have better stated it as God's people.

What I was saying is God's people was determined by nationality or by being a descendant of Abram. Not it is a individual decision to accept Christ as your Lord and Savior.

 

Man you really need to get a grip on some of the things you post.

 

Again, salvation came, in the OT, via Israel. That is not referring to being God's people. Now salvation comes via the church. Salvation has never come as a result of being a part of some group of people.

 

Moderator Note: This thread needs back on topic. Thanks for your cooperation.

LE

 

It is mind boggling, isn't it?!