To Be or Not to Be Blotted Out of God’s Book

I am not deceived. Neither is Word of God false or His promises written in vain.

 

And all whose names were not found in the Book of Life were cast into the Lake of Fire.
I would concentrate of the Book of Life if I were you.

 

Here is what Jamieson, Faucett and Brown say on that verse:

 

Yes, along with Spurgeon, Albert Barnes, and most other commentaries of that era.

 

You would be wise not to call the Calvinists on this board heretics, or even their beliefs heresy.
You have never been able to answer the question yourself--for as many times the Bible mentions: "election" "elect" "predestined" "chosen before the foundation of the world," etc. how do you account for such phrases, passages. You give a blanket denial of the doctrine of election, but fail to explain the many passages that deal with election. I have never seen you take up the gauntlet, arise to the challenge, have the courage, to exegete these passages and come forth a Biblical view of election. To sit there and deny it is not an option.

 

My, my, my. HP complaining about not receiving direct answers to his questions.

Oh boy!

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God bless!

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hi Heavenly Pilgrim,

Trying to catch up but won't get very far tonight.

Tried to quote, but it didn't when I logged in.

So, off the cuff.

Consider this: Psalm 69, a psalm of David and Messianic in nature:

26For they persecute him whom thou hast smitten; and they talk to the grief of those whom thou hast wounded.

27Add iniquity unto their iniquity: and let them not come into thy righteousness.

28Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.


I would recommend a review of this, as you seek to understand the book of life.

You say there are two books in Revelation 20-

12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books (plural)were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Though it is not said what books are referenced, I would offer two suggestions:

1-The written word of God, by which it is reasonable that they will be judged from. At this point, they are judged, whereas Christians have already been judged, and there remains no condemnation for them.

As there will be for these.

2-Among these books we may find the book of remembrance, if this isn't the book of life itself:

Malachi 3:16 (King James Version)

16Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.

Just a few thoughts to ponder.

God bless.

 

You are right...fruit is the evidence of salvation.

Without it, one should question their salvation.

But it is the evidence, not the means.

 

hi Heavenly Pilgrim,

Psalm 139-

13For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.

14I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

15My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.

16Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

Yet another good verse for life before birth (as well as whether David thought life began at conception).

Let that be a spoonful of dust for the pro-abortionist.

 

hi Heavenly Pilgrim,

An interesting thing about this topic is the book of the living: is this the book of life?

A question to be answered.

What would you say, H.P.?

 

What is interesting about this thread is that HP started it and HP has abandoned it. Come on HP, it is your thread, keep up with it!

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You might have a point brother. I am not married to this idea of all being in the book of life and then blotted out afterward.

Maybe you could elaborate on how your pov of this plays out in people's lives.

First I would ask, why does it say that all written in the Lambs book of life have already been written there before they ever actually existed? (Rev 17:8)

Second question would relate to the possible answer of the first, which is how does one get written in the Lamb's book of life if they have not already been written there prior to existing?

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