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To Be or Not To Be: That is the question of James 2:5

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Reformed1689, Dec 26, 2019.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    Van fails to see that even while yet in a lost sin state, God showed his grace towards us by choosing to save us in the beloved!
     
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    If we had been chosen to be His people before creation, why does scripture say we once were not a people?

    I put the question in red because it will be yet another unanswered question from those who do not support their views.
     
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    Every person chosen individually by God based on crediting their faith as righteousness, was in a lost unregenerate sinful state when chosen.

    For this poster to assert I do not see that God demonstrated His love for us, while we were yet sinner, (Romans 5:8) with impunity is sad indeed.
     
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    In the mind and will of God were chosen to become His people, but we actually had a real time in our history when that came to pass!
     
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    We were elected by God not based upon ANYTHING we do, but based upon God Himself!
     
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    If I choose a child to adopt, does he immediately become mine? No. Your argument is invalid.
     
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    When did God decide to adopt us, and on what basis was that decision made?
     
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    The chosen but not chosen absurdity defense. LOL
     
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    When did God choose us? Before or after salvation?
     
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    And what about post #86?
     
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    Again and again, the Calvinist proponents deny Romans 8:33 which teaches "adoption" refers not to being born anew, but to our bodily redemption at Christ's second coming.
     
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    Asked and answered. Why did Paul speak "as to men of flesh" using spiritual milk if men of flesh could not understand spiritual milk. No answer will be forthcoming because the truth is that the Calvinist doctrine of total spiritual inability is bogus.
     
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    What about the price of rice in China? See post #92
     
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    #95 Reformed1689, Jan 21, 2020
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    Nobody has denied Romans 8:33. You dodged the argument/illustration. Try again.
     
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    Yeah I saw post #92. It was a ridiculous strawman argument and didn't actually deal with post #86. Try again.
     
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    We deny his misunderstanding, but not the verses!
     
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    They were babes in Christ, saved, lost sinners do not receive the word of God!
     
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    Four posts in a row, all denying the obvious and in effect saying "taint so." ;)
     
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