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To Fly Or Not To Fly

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Dragoon68, Dec 2, 2008.

  1. Dragoon68

    Dragoon68 New Member

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    What did I say about corporate jets being an efficient mode of transportation for corporate executives?

    Ford, GM Chiefs to Drive to D.C., but Should They?



    This is all about show and politics - not practicality or efficiency - to appease the grandstanding blowhards in Congress!

    I still don't think we should give any bailout to the auto manufacturers. Let them figure out how to adjust their products, their processes, their labor agreements, etc. to meet the market demands. If they can not, let them fail. Someone else will pick up the pieces - the better pieces - and meet the market needs. In the end everyone will adjust to a better situation that will be had by prolonging the problem with "free" money out of our pockets.
     
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    Revmitchell Well-Known Member

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    That's right.:thumbs:
     
  3. KenH

    KenH Active Member

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    We cannot afford to allow even one of the Big Three to fail. It would be disastrous for hundreds of thousands, maybe even 1.5 million jobs, when the all of the fallout would take place. I do not want to see such suffering in this nation that I love.
     
  4. tinytim

    tinytim <img src =/tim2.jpg>

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    Bikes would be a better way to go, and this week, Walmart has men's 26 inch bikes on sale for $49...
     
  5. Rippon

    Rippon Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps they're made in China.
     
  6. Dragoon68

    Dragoon68 New Member

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    Adjustments are necessary in the work force from time to time. We do not owe anyone in the auto business a job for life. If they can not compete they need to change. If they will not change they need to fail. They will find something else to do and be more productive about it. Paying off the failure with tax payer money only transfers the burden from those directly involved to those not involved and it will not be without added waste and corruption. It is nothing more than a reward for doing bad both to management and to workers. We can not keep the home ice delivery man employed forever now that we have home refrigerators.
     
  7. tinytim

    tinytim <img src =/tim2.jpg>

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    In the short term it will be hard, in the long term, even if they fail... the Country will adjust, and will be better for it...

    Why prolong the pain to my grandchildren... It may be better to bite the bullet now.
     
  8. Salty

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    I wondering if the work force would take a $20 an hour pay cut - which would put them down to about $60 an hour

    Salty

    ps, I know, I know, managment should take a pay cut also
     
  9. donnA

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    what are we supose to do, guarentee everyones job so no one ever loses their job and causes hardship. Would be great if we could, but fact is, we can't, nor should we. Are you as a tax payer going to pay your money to make sure my husbands business stays open so he continues to be employed? because let me tell you, it would cause a great deal of hardship here, we'd literally be homeless. If your going to guarentee jobs shouldn't you start with poor people, those who earn $60. an hour are not the poor, those who earn under $15. are (and my husbands earns almost half that). No i guess we should guarentee jobs to the rich, and let the poor fend for themselves.
     
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    Really? Are they already put together? I mighth have to get one. I wonder what women's are running.
     
  11. tinytim

    tinytim <img src =/tim2.jpg>

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    yep, mens and womens... check out their flyer...
     
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