To SDA, question of Colossians 2:16

Col 2 tells us that the Shadow Sabbaths (those in Lev 23 that are centered in animal sacrifices that point forward as a shadow to the death of Christ) are simply types pointing to Christ.

We can all agree there.

In Exodus 20:8-11 we are given the text of Christ the creator's MEMORIAL Sabbath pointing BACK to Creation. And we find it "first made holy" in Gen 2:3-4 long before animal sacrifices and sin. Pointing BACK to the work of christ in creation - not pointing forward at all.

So when it comes to the "Shadow Sabbaths" of Col 2 - we can all agree. The sacrifices are ended at the cross according to Heb 10 so the shadows that contained them and pointed forward to Christ are also ended.

In Christ,

Bob

 

No differention of sabbath days is made in that verse; not "shadow sabbaths" and "creation sabbaths," unless there were also shadow new moons and creation new moons, or shadow kosher and creation kosher.

 

"Which are mere shadows of things to come" is the part of Col 2 that makes it clear - they are talking about the Shadow Sabbaths - the annual Sabbaths of Lev 23. As Paul says in 1 Cor 5 "Christ our PASSOVER has been slain".

That much is clear.

In Christ,

Bob

 

Matt Henry on Col 2:16
Verse 16. Let no man-judge you in meat, or in drink
The apostle speaks here in reference to some particulars of the hand-writing of ordinances, which had been taken away, viz., the distinction of meats and drinks, what was clean and what unclean, according to the law; and the necessity of observing certain holydays or festivals, such as the new moons and particular sabbaths, or those which should be observed with more than ordinary solemnity; all these had been taken out of the way and nailed to the cross, and were no longer of moral obligation. There is no intimation here that the Sabbath was done away, or that its moral use was superseded, by the introduction of Christianity. I have shown elsewhere that, Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, is a command of perpetual obligation, and can never be superseded but by the final termination of time. As it is a type of that rest which remains for the people of God, of an eternity of bliss, it must continue in full force till that eternity arrives; for no type ever ceases till the antitype be come. Besides, it is not clear that the apostle refers at all to the Sabbath in this place, whether Jewish or Christian; his σαββατων, of sabbaths or weeks, most probably refers to their feasts of weeks, of which much has been said in the notes on the Pentateuch.

http://www.studylight.org/com/acc/view.cgi?book=col&chapter=002

 

The Law of God written on the heart under the terms of the Gospel.

the OT scripture "INSPIRED by God and used for Doctrine and instruction" 2Tim3:16...

And the DEBT that the Law says we owe (our Ticket - our Bill, or certificate of debt) nailed to the Cross - but not the Word of God Nailed to the Cross!

In Christ,

Bob

 

You wear glasses with a lens filter that obstructs you from seeing any scripture except the way you have been taught and have already made up your mind. The first Christians also had this trouble, judging Peter for sharing the Word with gentiles, even eating with them. Pete, of course, had a little trouble being convinced himself in the first place, and still found it hard years later at the meeting at Antioch.

 

I believe you are quoting Matthew Henry. He is a sunday keeping Christian.

 

Bob, can you post the exact article on the Constantine when he declared that all the officers should take rest on the Day of Holy Sun? It might be around 321 AD, March 7 or so. I cannot remember the exact article and the source. ( any supporting documents are important).

I am not prejudiced to either side of Sabbath or Sunday worship, but I believe the Sabbath itself is still Saturday ( exactly from Friday even to Sat even) and God delights in His Sabbath still.

My recent discovery was Exodus 23:12 which says we should take rest so that we can be refreshed. Our Spirit and souls are designed to take rest on Sabbath day, not any other human designed day. This might need some further meditation remembering the 8th day Circumcision. The scientific study shows that Vitamin K is produced incredibly, maybe 1000% of normal days, on the 7-8 th day after birth, so that the cut wounds from the circumcision may be healed immediately. Likewise the human body system is not changed but designed to take rest on Sabbath Day.

I am basically a believer that every day of 7 days a week is the Sabbath in Jesus christ and there is no differentiation among the days. However, I realize I have to choose a certain day for the worship service, then can hardly avoid the burden of choice. Anyway I am generous to any party on this matter.

 

OOOPS! Double Post!

 

I was not quoting anyone; and for the record, I don't bother reading these long copy & pastes you whitewash this subject with. Use your own words; don't tray to indicate "This guy says this about it, and heee's just plain infallible."

 

Where did that quote come from? From what text?

 

I agree with you - the Bible Sabbath is from Friday evening to Saturday evening. But not all Christians thought about it this way in earlier centuries. Some considered that it had been "edited to Sunday" by the traditions of man and that this actually changed the day. So in seeking to keep Christ's Sabbath Commandment - they kept sunday.

The only thing I can get at the moment on 321 AD from historic documents is this ...

Thank you for sharing that sir. It is an interesting point.

In Exodus God conducted an experiment with the manna for 40 years to emphasize the point with Israel that they had to select His selected day as the preparation day and His selected day as the Sabbath.

In Gen 2:3-4 He makes a lot out of the fact that HE sanctified it and blessed it.

In Christ,

Bob

 

Bob quotes Adam Clark with link and mistakenly calls it Matthew Henry -

Adam Clark not Matt Henry. Clark's link is given in the post but my heading says it is MAtthew Henry - I have corrected the error in my notes. THanks.

In Christ,

Bob

 

Bob;
Clean out your pm box.

 

Ok - done!

 

That is correct - I gave the right link for quote but I labeled it Matthew Henry in my notes instead of Adam Clarke.

Thanks for pointing that out sir.

In Christ,

Bob

 

The reason that Matthew Henry keeps getting added to my notes in Col 2 has to do with Vs 14

 

Here are some other sources I have collected on this topic -- hopefully I got them right.