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'Today Gaza, tomorrow Jerusalem' – Qureia

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  1. Bro. Curtis

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    July 27th, 2005
    Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia Wednesday said Israel's planned withdrawal from the Gaza Strip would eventually lead to its surrender of the Jews' ancient capital – Jerusalem.

    “We are telling the entire world, today Gaza and tomorrow Jerusalem. Today Gaza and tomorrow and independent Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital,” Qureia said while reviewing PA security forces in Gaza.

    He insisted the Palestinian Arabs would never agree to end their hostility towards the Jews until the holy city was relinquished to their control.

    “Without Jerusalem there will be no peace,” said Qureia a day earlier, amid reports Israel planned to build a new Jewish housing structure in the so-called “Muslim Quarter” of Jerusalem's Old City.

    Israeli leaders from both the right and left of the political spectrum have for decades stated Israel would never agree to re-divide its “eternal capital.”

    Pointing to the looming Gaza-Samaria withdrawal, however, members of Israel's ruling Likud Party are now warning that Prime Minister Ariel Sharon could be the one to attempt such a move in a misguided push for peace.

    Last month, Sharon's deputy, Ehud Olmert, put forward the idea that the predominantly Arab neighborhoods of eastern Jerusalem could be surrendered to PA control.

    Olmert's public comments have long been recognized as a testing ground for future Sharon policies.
     
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    Jerusalem may need to be turned over to the U.N. to administrate to solve this issue between the Palestinians and the Israelis to bring about a two State solution.
     
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    To be accurate, Jerusalem was not part of the State of Israel when it was created in 1948. It was unilaterally siezed by Israel thereafter, and the Palestinians have been contesting it ever since. In fact, the US and many other western countries have never recognized the annexation. So, to me, if Israel decides to hand over Jerusalem to Palestine, that's up to them. If they don't that's up to them too. Either way, it's an internal matter between Israel and Palestine to resolve. It's not a moral issue, or even a domestic issue.
     
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    I wouldn't trust the U.N. to get their shoes tied. Their anti-Israel bias has been exposed numerous times. And Jerusalem became part of Israel after the six day war, and to the victor go the spoils. Remember, Israel was attacked by several nations, before Jerusalem was their's. The P.A. will not stop at Jerusalem, & I think it's silly to think that once a two-state solution has been reached, that the aggression will stop.
     
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    Then, was it okay for the USSR to keep East Germany after WW2? Should we have kept Japan and our part of West Germany? After all, to the victor goes the spoils.

    I'm not saying handing over Jerusalem is right or wrong. I'm saying it's an internal matter for them, and not a moral one for us.
     
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    Originally posted by Johnv:
    Then, was it okay for the USSR to keep East Germany after WW2?

    YUP.

    Should we have kept Japan and our part of West Germany? After all, to the victor goes the spoils.

    The fact that we didn't shows how great our nation really is. We built them back up, because they surrendered unconditionally, something none of the aggressors in the Six Day War did. The point of my O.P. is that the P.A. will never be happy until all the Joos are gone, and that IS a moral issue.
     
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    Sure, that sounds like a great plan. The UN is squeaky clean and really knows how to administrate and solve problems. Plus, they have a proven track record of impartiality. :rolleyes:
     
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    Today Gaza, tomorrow Jerusalem, and the next day somewhere else.

    Islamic extremeism is "vengeance is search of a reason".
     
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    Yep. The whole mission of Islam is to take over the world by the sword for "allah". Kill and sleigh the infidels wherever you find them, meaning Christians and Jews. I didn't say extremist, because this is what the Koran teaches. The "extremists" are simply the ones who are following what the real Islam is.

    This all goes back to Ishmael and Isaac.
     
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