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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Crabtownboy, Aug 3, 2014.

  1. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy Well-Known Member
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    Guess it all depends on you point of view.


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    More proof of it just being two sides of the same coin. Both sides do the same thing.
     
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    Presidents can issue executive orders--the number means nothing.

    However, some of Obama's are illegal.

    Does anyone really say that Obama has done nothing criminal?
     
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    Folks said the same thing about President GW Bush, Clinton, President HW Bush and Reagan. It's partisan politics. People are simply gonna complain about the guy who isn't from the party they support.
     
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    The number is an intentional distraction and is irrelevant. It is a strawman argument no one is making.
     
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    Which Executive Orders by Reagan or Bush do you think were illegal?
     
  7. Crabtownboy

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    Executive Order 13233 limited access to the records of former United States Presidents to a higher degree than the previous Order 12667, which it superseded. It was drafted by then White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales and issued by George W. Bush on November 1, 2001.

    The sole branch of this government that is responsible for creating legislation is the legislative branch the Congress of the United States. However - the US Department of Homeland Security was created directly by Presidential Executive Order No 13228, below.
     
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    What was illegal about reorganizing departments to defend us after 9/11?

    There you go again ctb, arm chair legalese makes you look plain silly.

    Granted Ronny and W did write up executive orders and dems complained till the cows came home, but they never went against the US Constitution. :type:
     
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    I didn't say that I thought ANY of ANY President were illegal.:laugh:
     
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    Obama and Holder have acted illegally and used the charge of "racism" against anyone who complained about them.

    In his new book , The People Vs. Barack Obama: the Criminal Case Against the Obama Administration, author Ben Shapiro says:

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    Quantity means little. Legality and motive (i.e. the good of the Nation) means all.
     
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    Rolf, are speaking here of the "scope" of the Executive Orders issued by the current president?
     
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    Yes. Examples: The DREAM Act, the Obamacare alterations, drug laws, etc.
     
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    And those who voted for Obamma were either blind or stupid or both!
     
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