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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Crabtownboy, Mar 7, 2017.

  1. JonC

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    Yes, time will tell. I'm not thrilled about the path we are on anymore than I was thrilled about the one we just stepped off. I don't think the evil we knew and embraced any less dangerous than the one we don't see (which is why I speak of platforms instead of end result). At a minimum, we know Trump is no more narcissistic and totalitarian than Oba,a and Clinton.

    We could add to the list "Look at the promises of Obama and see what we got". But only time will tell of the current administration.
     
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    Think that trump will NOT though go as far left as Obama did, into abortions, gay marriages, defending islam , socialist economy etc!
     
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    He may go so far right that it will make no difference. It may be worse. More likely is he will complete the destruction of the middle-class and add millions to the poor.
     
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    But the question is who. Who is to oppose these worldly evils, how, and in what context?
     
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    BINGO!!!!
     
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    This one rates MULTIPLE "WINNER"S
     
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    It's fact that the Republican Congress blocked Obama's proposals. Those Congresses are rated the worst in American history.
     
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    Ever heard about the filibuster? The majority did not rule because of this device.
     
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    Obama gave health care to tens of millions of needy people who are now in danger of losing it because the GOP wants tax cuts for the wealthy. BTW, I no longer identify as a political liberal. I'm a Christian following Jesus.

    [​IMG] Mat 25:40
    And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

    Mat 19:24
    And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

    Refute the words of Jesus not mine. he's my Lord and I try to live up to his perfect example.
     
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    Trump didn't create those things. Is your memory so poor that you don't remember Trayvon and Black Lives Matter started before Trump's campaign?

    Trump's campaign merely put a bigger spotlight on a situation that was painfully brought to the surface during Obama's presidency. Neither Obama nor Trump are to blame for it; unless you just wanna blame someone....
     
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    I'd actually like to see the stats of those who have health care now, that didn't before; vice those that don't have health insurance because they can no longer afford it; vice those that are still willing to pay the tax penalty rather than pay for the health insurance.
     
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    Define worldly evils, as to me, Isis is #1 on that list!
     
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    That 20 Million not having insurance has many in it who are younger and chose not to have it, and others are already covered by their own state funds!
     
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    You do know that health insurance is not a constitional right, correct?
     
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    You mean finish what Obama really strated, especially among middle Class Blacks?
     
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    Hey, thanks for bringing this up.

    Good intention: Affordable health insurance for all.

    Result: ObamaCare. People losing their plans for mandated government plans. Lousy health care plans with high deductibles. Skyrocketing monthly premiums. Insurance companies backing out of the exchanges. Businesses limiting jobs to less than 30 hours a week to avoid the mandate, creating a part time working economy. People needing to work two jobs. Small businesses keeping full time employees under 50 workers to avoid the mandate.

    Liberals: Never mind the result. We had good intentions.
     
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    And the kicker is that many of those people still refused to buy insurance and just paid the penalty!
    Would have been far better to have allowed for purchases across state lines and tweaked existing health care!
     
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    You're characterization of Obamacare is not accurate. I have two friends who would have died if that bill hadn't been enacted. They both used to be millionaires but were devastated by catastrophic medical issues and were cut off from their company provided insurance (the REAL death panels). My brother has 3 Master's degrees (MS Econ, MBA, and MDIV). he gave up a lucrative career as a corporate financial analyst when he felt the call to the ministry and entered the SBS at age 42. He pastored a small church in a poor neighborhood which barely paid him a salary and gave him no insurance. The SBC refused to even let him into a group policy. For 15 YEARS he had no health insurance because both of us have a pre-existing condition. He finally got health insurance under Obamacare. You throw around characterizations about Obamacare. Do you actually know anyone on it?
     
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    As I've said here previously, I no longer consider my self to be liberal politically. I've realized that my beliefs result from my faith. If your faith tells you to not provide medical care to the needy but rather increase spending for meaningless wars that's between you and God.
     
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    That's pertinent. Why don't you provide us with that?
     
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