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Trash Talk Can Get You a Fed Job

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Dragoon68, Aug 23, 2010.

  1. Dragoon68

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    How is this craziness? It is not a bad idea to have someone with fluency in a dialect assisting with law enforcement.
     
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    If government did it's job there would be no such dialect - the children would speak the same language as the rest of the nation does. All these kinds of policies do is encourage more of the same.
     
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    And if frogs had wings they would fly.

    The fact of the matter is that someone understanding ebonics may assist in law enforcement. I'd rather catch criminals than let them go free. This does not encourage ebonics at all.
     
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    There may be many accents, but there is only one "dialect" to the English language.
     
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    And in the USA we do not Speak English - we speak American!:saint:
     
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    This website has an awesome map of the myriad of english dialects just in the UK alone with recordings when you click on an area.

    British Library: Sounds Familiar? Accents and Dialects of the UK

    Here is a good list of some American dialects.

    PBS: Do you speak American? American Varieties


     
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    Yo, this be illin'.
     
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    Dragoon, you are hilarious. Ebonics is a "language" completely made up, but one that has gained traction over the years in the rap/hip hop and now criminal underground communities to communicate without law enforcement knowing what is being said. Has nothing to do with the government or the schools doing their jobs. Good night, nurse. Educate yourself, otherwise you look foolish. Law Enforcement is very, very wise to find folks to interpret this "language". No different than code breakers for the military. Exact same thing.
     
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    I mean, yo, man, why y'all so wohked up and all, y'know wh'um sayn ? like we all faaaam, man...we all faaaam
     
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    One would think that a trip to the local CD store (or iTunes) would provide plenty of curricula for the training...
     
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    It's no use. I tried. I walked in and asked for a 50-cent CD...and they wanted 18 dollars?

    Didn't they understand me?? I only had 50 cents!
     
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    Ha, ha, ha! That's a good one!
     
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    I stand corrected, but unconvinced. There may be differences in regional slang, but the grunts and half words of what is known as "ebonics" shouldn't be considered a dialect but a pop culture fad. They turn it on and off at will.
     
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    The fact that "ebonics" never actually took root as a dialect is one support for Carpro.

    The fact that it's being used as a "code language" is a point for the other side of the argument.

    Consider it a draw. In my personal opinion, it's not so crazy to expect law enforcement officials to look for "code language experts" to help them in fighting criminals.
     
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    It just occurred to me: those of us that remember when Ebonics was proposed as a valid "african-american language"...how do you think those proponents are reacting now that their "valid language" has been corrupted into a code language for criminals?
     
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    The greater issue here, in my opinion, is that America does not need the complication of a bogus language that was created for the deliberate purpose of not using standard American English. Ebonics isn't a language - it's just a rebellious protest!
     
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    You're absolutely correct.

    So what do we do about the fact that criminals are using it to cover their illicit activities?
     
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    That's a good question and I can certainly see that learning the talk might be of use for undercover work - similar to learning gang symbolism - but I'm just not convinced it's absolutely necessary to enforce the law and, in general, I just don't like the idea of giving any credence to Ebonics by "teaching" it and especially on the tax payer's dime. I just think the laws can be enforced without doing that.
     
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