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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Dragoon68, Jun 5, 2008.

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  1. Dragoon68

    Dragoon68 Active Member

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    Reading this article may give some insight into what supporters see in Obama:

    Excitement About Obama Spreads Around The World

    I really don't give a flip what the world thinks about Obama. If I do it's more likely that what they support I won't! However, this article written by the Associated Press out of London reflects what Obama's supporters in America think so I believe it's worth reading.

    There are many descriptive words used in the article - appealing persona, elegant, strings lots of sentences together into paragraphs, trendsetter, etc. - few, in any, of which have anything to do with substance.
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    Here's one sentence that says a lot: "The excitement was less about Obama's foreign policies — which remain vague on many fronts — than a sense that the candidacy of a black American with relatives in Africa and childhood friends in Asia marks a historic moment." The key word for me here is "vague"!

    I'm disappointed in America's Democrats from this selection. On the other hand, they didn't have any good candidates and the runner up would have been just as bad.

    I hope he gets beat real bad in November. The problem is figuring out who to support instead!
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    #1 Dragoon68, Jun 5, 2008
  2. Gold Dragon

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    As a Canadian living in Australia who has supported Obama I am also excited. Most of the international Obama supporters I have talked to recognize that he is more form than substance at this point in time. We have yet to see if that will eventually become his downfall.

    But I think the international excitement is because Obama appears to be someone who is dramatically opposed to most of what the international community sees as being wrong with America. That view, correct or not, is that the US power holders use their strength to bully others for their own good at the expense of others instead of using their clout to work together and benefit all parties invovled. This is relevant of internal left vs right issues as well as international U.S. vs other country issues.

    Obama's vision of working with people across divides whether nationally or internationally is one that I believe resonates with many people in the US and the rest of the world. People see the failure to work across divides in their own countries and communities because of differences of ideology as the cause of many of the world's problems. Cynics may call it a rise in pragmaticism but I personally see it as an indication of the rise in prominence of a postmodern ethos which I know is considered a bad thing for many on this board.

    I look forward to seeing if this attitude of cooperation can truly manifest itself in actual policy making by Obama and also to other levels of US government and society at large.
     
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    It won't. The POTUS is a puppet of the international bankers, no matter who is in office. Obama is just showing he is charming, can sway the masses by tickling their ears, and that he is truly naive about the office he is seeking.
     
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    Just exactly who has he worked with and what form of substance has he proven to have?
     
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    Yep and I'm pretty sure that once the bankers and military industrial complex sits him down and explains who really controls the foreign policy of the USA to him he'll do his utmost to be the best corporatist money can buy.
     
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    This next song is a long distance dedication going out to Lady Eagle tonight from Barack, who says he has done everything to win her love, yet she is playing hard to get. So from Barack to LE, James & Bobby Purify . . .
     
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  7. Dragoon68

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    America has historically been respected because it's always been on the right side of liberty and justice, has been willing to take a stand for it, and has the stick to do it with wherever its interest were at stake and sometimes only marginally so. America has used its strength and resources to encourage friends and foe towards those goals. America has worked with other nations of like mind and some of not so like mind to accomplish tremendous goals. America has done what many other nations only complain about and wish they could do. We've done it with the proceeds of our labor and the blood of our warriors. America has given far more than it has ever received both in the pursit of liberty and justice as well as just plain humanitarian aid.

    Obama isn't going to redefine what has made America great. Obama, remember, has been taught that America is not great in his own black liberation theology. The fact that there's so much excitement about him in some foreign circles greatly worries me because he may end up being their best friend but not our own.
     
    #7 Dragoon68, Jun 6, 2008
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    As a Canadian living in Australia, your support means less than nothing.
     
    #8 carpro, Jun 8, 2008
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