Trinity Is At It Again!

accreditation

Hi Martin,

I saw that you have a small battle with this school, it changed to many times it's accredition.

But I checked, and believe me, that University of Wales, recognize full 3 bachelors and 3 masters from Trinity.

Here in Europe, is different with accreditation, ussual is coming from Minister of Education (from a guvernamental agency).

And University of Wales is fully accredited worldwide.

That validation system, it means that every student will be enroled with both schools (main one and University of Wales) and to the end, the degree is coming with University of Wales name.

I saw a degree like this from Spurgeon's College, London (the famous college start by Spurgeon's have the same accreditation from University of Wales).

The history of this school is strange for me, with too many changes about accredition.
But I need to recognize, that right now they are full acredited from University of Wales.

European (from the haert of Transylvania :laugh

 

Martin,

Why not contact the University of Wales for clarification? When Trinity had a similar relationship with the University of Liverpool, I asked Dr. Daniel Block, then professor of OT at SBTS and a Liverpool DPhil alum, about it. He shook his head and said that he had written a protest to the head of Liverpool. Soon thereafter, that relationship was terminated.

Trinity does not seek legitimate accreditation because they cannot qualify for it. Their required work is substandard. Their's is a money-making venture. As long as there are students who either do not investigate the school or care only for a sheet of official-looking paper declaring them to be a graduate, they will continue their profitable enterprise.

Bill

 

again Trinity

http://www.wales.ac.uk/defaultpage.asp?page=E7052&Country=USA&inst=TTS

Here University of Wales said about Trinity that is full validated ..

I'm not an advocate for Trinity, few years ago I was already to start a program with them, but because of informations from this forum, I did other courses.

I don't know what standards are used by University of Wales and what is the quality of Trinity classes right now, but for me is very clear that Trinity have a validation from this University.

European.

 

Well put. :thumbs:

 

for Martin

Martin,

Do you know any Master degree in Church History by distance education?

 

So, in what way is Trinity's course work substandard? I need to hear from someone who can compare Trinity with other schools and give me specific examples. I have heard someone say Trinity's doctoral programs are not as rigorous as accredited schools'. Trinity, for instance, does not require biblical languages for its doctoral degrees. What are some of the other areas where Triniy has problems in terms of its academics? How about MA programs? Why are Trinity's MA programs inferior to other schools? I wish Trinity did not spin its accreditation status. But still, I'm not really sure if the school's courses are all that bad.

 

Trinity (Newburgh)

I'd be more concerned if the University of Wales accredited Trinity's Ph.D program--which they don't. Despite its shady marketing practices its faculty and graduate programs really seem adequate IMHO.

Tom

 

Here's a question that I have: Why is a school like the U of Phoenix with substandard level accredited but a school like Trinity, which maybe on the same level, having a hard time in achieving accreditation?

 

Initial observations

Whereas I cannot claim extensive knowledge of this new relationship and what it means, I do know something of Trinity and the University of Wales. Spurgeon College of London did a similar thing with a graduate degree in Baptist history but I think the program has been discontinued.

Here are just a few of my thoughts on this new claim by Trinity:

1. The awarding of degrees by a chartered university for work completed at another institution is a time-honored and legitimate process in the European system but it may be stretching to the breaking point across the Atlantic. How much does the University of Wales really know about Trinity? After all, a little can be made to look like a whole lot on paper. At a distance, Trinity can be made fairly credible until one reads the fine print.
2. Given the history of Trinity in trying to circumvent U.S. accreditation by European approval, it would appear that the schools overseas drop Trinity after they gain knowledge and experience with them.
3. One can earn University of Wales degrees by thesis or dissertation without matriculating with Trinity . The University, I think, reviews the students' theses or dissertations from Trinity and awards the degrees on that basis. How many Trinity students can write a credible thesis or dissertation that will pass muster for the University of Wales standards?
4. The substandard Trinity course work may be irrelevant regarding the University of Wales degrees. After all, you can complete the degrees with the University of Wales by the thesis or dissertation alone. So, the final decision depends, I think, upon the quality of the paper. Remember that the European philosophy of higher education does not place the premium on course work as in the U.S. Degrees may be earned by taught courses or by thesis.
5. With all said and done, the Trinity program is pointless. Just matriculate with the University of Wales and earn their degree by thesis or dissertation. It's still all smoke and mirrors with Trinity.

 

I don't know about Phoenix, but a pastor friend wanted to do external PhD work and was persuaded by Trinity that its work was rigorous. He applied, was accepted, and began his first course. After working some time on it he returned it and withdrew from the program, saying that the work was less rigorous than his MDiv work at New Orleans Seminary.

Bill