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Trust McCain? His First Wife Carol Couldn't!

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by iq4truth, Sep 5, 2008.

  1. iq4truth

    iq4truth New Member

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    They're not sharing what is public knowledge AND past history?? History that has no bearing on the present?

    From one of the links found on the first page of your google manhunt (I closed the window so I can't remember which one it was - it was a democratic blog though):

    "In his book Worth the Fighting For, McCain offers his own post-mortem on his failed marriage. He "had not shown the same determination to rebuild (his) personal life" as he had to excel in his naval career.

    "Sound marriages can be hard to recover after great time and distance have separated a husband and wife. We are different people when we reunite," McCain wrote. "But my marriage's collapse was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity more than it was to Vietnam, and I cannot escape blame by pointing a finger at the war. The blame was entirely mine.""

    There's a man that I respect. He takes the blame. AND he's now been married to Cindy for 28 years. So why dig up the past when it's past?
     
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    I don't see anyone trying to hide this stuff. McCain has addressed it directly many times. And instead of trying to blame it on his imprisonment or her accident he takes the blame as Annsni already quoted.

    A guy who admits his mistakes, takes the blame, learns from them, and actually shows a better performance the second time around. Wow he sounds almost human.
     
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    Something that happened 30 years ago...and we shouldn't trust him now :confused:
     
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    I thought just yesterday was it, or prehaps Wednesday, we had agreed here on this board not to bring family into it. To debate just the candidate themselves, voteing record, what they support and don't support.
    That didn't last long.
    I supose we can talk about Obama's family now?
     
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    Did you feel this way about John Kerry? I doubt it!
     
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    I supose we can talk about Obama's family now?
     
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    What are you talking about?
     
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    When Kerry was running in 2004 all many could do is bring up things that happened almost 30 years in the past. Now, when it's something in McCain's past, it isn't relevant. That's all.

    It's not that I think McCain's affair is important today, I don't. If I were a McCain supporter, or even a republican, this would not matter at all.
     
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    My sentiments exactly.

    As I recall, about 28 years ago, this country elected a man who was also divorced. IMHO that man turned out to be the greatest US President of the 20th century.

    There will only ever be one perfect ruler in this world; however, He hasn't chosen to establish His perfect rule over this world just yet.
     
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    What is it with libs? Do you not have any judgment at all? Kerry still holds to this lie. Has never admitted that it was a lie. So there is absolutely no comparison here. He has never admitted to any moral failure here. He just continues to create similar lies.
     
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    Bolded mine

    They march to a different "drummer" Rev, pure & simple. I think this is obvious from the basis of most of their views.
     
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    Since I don't plan on marrying him, his first wife Carol, means nothing to me.
     
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    I think I have seen that logic before.
     
  16. iq4truth

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    Many people in the USA hold their presidential candidates to very high standards regarding their life choices, regardless of when in their life they made them, especially adultry.

    I believe that all citizens should be informed of all character history of their candidates. I, and others with whom I have spoken about this, knew nothing of McCain's infidelity.

    Some people want to elect someone to the highest office who has always been known to be of high moral character.

    I posted a Google link so that all could view the many articles for themselves. I believe that we need to reach truth on our own.

    You'll find this one interesting:
    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0607.benen.html

    I personally believe in voting for the best candidate, not the lesser of two evils.

    Would Jesus vote for Chuck Baldwin or McCain?

    Jesus doesn't give a heck about who wins a political race on earth; He cares about you and me doing the right thing - whether it puts you in the "cool club" or not.

    If Christians would just do the right thing and vote for the best candidate in the eyes of God (by study of the Bible), then the two-party beast wouldn't exist, and people wouldn't feel trapped to vote for McCain instead of Osama, I mean, Obama.
     
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    I find it interesting the staunch family values people, the by the Bible only people are defending McCain's adultry. Would they be so kind to a liberal?
     
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    I read the posts pretty closely and can not see where anyone is "defending McCain's adultry".

    I believe that the Bible also says something about bearing false witness.
     
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    Please show the posts where you saw a defense of McCain's adultery. I expect you will come up with nada, zilch, zero, none, empty, and fruitless.
     
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    I've asked this before, at what point do we let someone recover from a past sin?

    If they tell me it won't happen again, I'm going to trust that it won't unless they show me otherwise. I may be cautious with them for a season, but at some point, we have to move on. We are all sinners and in that we all have things that could continuously be thrown in our faces. There has been plenty of time in this instance for a new track record to be established.

    I didn't like Kerry on policy and I have said on many occasions that I lost a tremendous amount of respect for Newt Gingrich because of his leaving his wife when he did. I was in his district at the time.

    I do deeply wish everyone were still married to their first spouse if that spouse is living. But what actually is the lousy percentage of us that are? I used to keep up with it, but it kept dropping even within the church . . .
     
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