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Featured Tullian Tchividjian Back in Active Ministry

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Reformed, Sep 1, 2015.

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  1. Reformed

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    http://willowcreekchurch.org/our-staff

    This is predictable, but sad nonetheless. Instead of submitting himself to church discipline, and restoration, Tullian Tchividjian goes right back into ministry. The name of Christ takes a black-eye once again.
     
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    I can't help but think of what could have been. Had Mr. Tchividjian submitted himself to the care of his church, the process of his restoration could have been a testimony of grace and mercy. Not restoration to ministry mind you, but restoration of his obedient Christian walk and the healing of his marriage.
     
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    You can write Ichabod over that assembly.....sad but when churches do not obey scripture this is the result.
     
  5. Tom Bryant

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    First of all, this is the wrong thing to do Scripturally. But, on a personal level, I can't imagine jumping right back into pastoring right after all this. Pastoring is difficult as it is. I was forced into resigning from the first church I pastored - not a moral issue at all, just major differences. It was 18 months before I was emotionally ready to get back on that horse.

    And this kind of thing doesn't just happen overnight, it's been in the works for a while.
     
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    Wow. That's all I can say. Wow.
     
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    I have lost all respect for him. My husband and I had just started reading his book when the first news broke and then as we saw how he was acting we put the book away and will no longer read any of his stuff or recommend him to anyone. He needs to repent to stay in the timeline with all of his humblebrags. I can't imagine what this church was thinking as he is clearly no longer qualified for ministry.
     
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    This man apparently has had some doctrinal issues as well as moral issues. One rarely emerges without the other. Hand in hand morals and doctrine walk the road to destruction of their own ministry and the lives of countless others.
     
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    I can't imagine many who would say filing divorce on Thursday and taking a new staff position at a church on Tuesday is wise...or within the bounds of Scripture.
     
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    I think it is important to note that he is not on the "Pastoral Ministry Staff" as defined by the church's website. (http://willowcreekchurch.org/our-staff)

    Rather, he is on the "Ministry Staff" which includes persons such as the bookkeeper, admins, facilities personnel, interns, etc.

    His role may have more to do with strategy and advisory work.

    That being said, I do not think this is wise.
     
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    Even just being on staff - just a couple of weeks is not enough time to have dealt with this sin PLUS the fact that he has decided to cement the tearing apart of his family by filing for divorce. ANY of that would be enough for someone on our staff to be removed from the staff and ministry. Hiring someone in this "condition"? Umm - no.
     
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    I suspect that he was hired because of his Grandfather.
     
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    That, plus the fact that in Kevin Labby's(senior Pastor) bio he lists people who have helped shape him. John Calvin, Martin Luther, R.C. Sproul..... And....wait for it.....Tullian Tchividjian. So I am sure Kevin was ecstatic to have a chance at getting Tullian as a staff member and pushed hard for him.

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    A book I had on failure in ministry (Running the Red Lights, by Charles Mylander, I think it was) told of a survey of such pastors. Their greatest agony was the loss of their ministry. No doubt Tullian is feeling that. Also, I do have some sympathy for the pressure he feels being the grandson of a famous preacher.

    Having said that, this is the wrong move for both Tullian and the church. There should have been church discipline by Coral Ridge, carried through to the end goal, which is repentance and restoration as a believer but not to the ministry.
     
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    I wonder if he sought any counsel from his Uncle Franklin, or from Grandfather Billy?
     
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    And all of this while his Aunt Anne is mourning the loss of her husband Danny. :( It's a rough time in the Graham household.
     
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    How is this a Baptist topic?

    Shouldn't it be in the News or Other Denominations section?
     
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    Billy Graham is a Baptist. I suppose it thus falls under Baptist discussion. Tenuous, but plausible.
     
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    Huh? The thread was about Tullian, not his grandfather.
     
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    And I see Annsni brought up other Baptist kin of this guy. Perhaps Herald/Reformed/MorseOp/etc. could better explain how this fits as a Baptist topic...
     
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