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Tyndale

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by av1611jim, Nov 9, 2004.

  1. av1611jim

    av1611jim New Member

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    Congratulations guys! You have showed me the error of my ways!
    I am now a Tyndale only-ist!
    www.godstruthtous.org
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    In His service;
    Jim
     
  2. Logos1560

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    In his introduction to a modern-spelling edition of Tyndale's New Testament, David Daniel noted that Tyndale "was a better Greek scholar than Luther, and his understanding was more than just competent" (p. xvii).

    THE OXFORD ENCYCLOPEDIA OF THE REFORMATION noted: "As a translator, Tyndale demonstrated a level of compentency in the original languages that was rare anywhere in sixteenth-century Europe" (IV, p. 190).
     
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    If God has revealed to them that Tyndale is the one true English translation of the Bible, who are we to argue?
     
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    But who are we to believe...them or Michelle? Or is God doing the confusion thing?

    I just don't know...
     
  6. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    Compared to Tyndale the KJV is an MV.

    We all know the views some hold on MVs. so......
     
  7. stevec

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    Has anybody actually taken a look at this? The site (and possibly the author) is so schizophrenic it is almost impossible to follow.

    What is this guy trying to say?
     
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  9. av1611jim

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    Hey! It's your own fault fellas. It was you who taught me that the KJV was not right. After all it is full of errors. Just a translation you said. So I went looking. And I found this. Hey after all if you cannot trust one of God's martyrs then who can you trust huh?
    So I am TVo (Tyndale version only).
    It was the first complete(modern) English Bible translation by one of the first English matyrs for the words of God.

    (I am funnin' ya'll.)
    I really am interested in what you all have to say about Tyndale's work however.
    In His service;
    Jim
     
  10. robycop3

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    Tyndale tried to make an English equivalent for every word in the mss. For example he coined "Passover" for pascha, where others simply said 'pask' or something similar, or left the word untranslated. However, there was nothing he could with 'ephod, urim, thummin' so he left them as they were. he called sheol, hades, tartaroo & gehenna all 'hell' as the definition of each takes more than a coupla words.
     
  11. HankD

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    Wrong, the implication that you are making by innuendo is that someone here made a blanket statement that the KJV is not right in toto.
    Who used the phrase "full of errors" (other than yourself)?
    No! Not just a translation, but a good translation which we cherish and which has been used of God for His glory.

    We have been forced into pointing out its flaws of human frailty in its translation to object to those who have invaded the BB and are trying to make of it something it is not "Nehushtan".

    HankD
     
  12. stevec

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    Not to mention "straw man" arguments can be very damaging to your credibility.
     
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    Actually, Tyndale's was not a complete English Bible since he was killed before he could finish translating the Old Testament.

    Because so much of the KJV comes from Tyndale's, KJV-only author John Sawyer referred to Tyndale as "the primary translator of the KJV."
    William Bradley, another KJV-only author, identified Tyndale as "the principal translator of the KJB" (PURIFIED SEVEN TIMES, p. 51).

    The doctrinal view of William Tyndale may have been more sound than the doctrinal views of the Church of England translators of the KJV.

    According to Tyndale's own writings, he would have disagreed with at least two of the important changes that the KJV translators made in his translating.
     
  14. Baptist in Richmond

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    That's not exactly true. Speaking as a TRUE Authorised Version user, I would STRONGLY disagree with this claim.

    1. The Authorised Version contains all 80 Books of the Bible. If your "1611" only contains 66 Books, then your KJV does indeed have one big glaring error.

    2. I really don't have a problem with the 1769 Revision, per se. My problem has always been with the false assertion that the KJV is the ONLY place to find God's Word in the English language. This has been offered as Doctrine, and it is clearly an Unscriptural belief. And just think: I actually use the Authorised Version!!

    It is an excellent Translation, but I prefer the Translation of another martyr, John Calvin.
     
  15. Plain Old Bill

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    avjim1611 , logos1560 told it right.you are a funny guy.
     
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    Do not laugh, but I am watching 'The Six Wives of Henry VIII' on our local PBS affiliate. I will blame having to watch it on my wife. In the latest installment (#2 - Anne Boleyn), it referenced a statement made by Tyndale. The statement, attributed to Tyndale, basically inferred that the King, and not the Pope, was the authority over the Church. Of course, this is during the time that ol' Henry is trying to get around the divorce issue with the Catholic Church. Is there any merit to the attribution of this statement to Tyndale? I haven't researched it out, so I was wondering if that was really Tyndale's conviction.
     
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    What were Tyndale's last words? "Lord, open the eyes of the King of England!"

    Did y'all know that in those days the popes had a standing army and navy? However, the papal galleys would've stood no chance against the Great Harry and the other large ships of the Royal Navy, and the British army was ten times the size of that of the pope. And almost all the British military was loyal to Henry. Therefore discretion became the better part of valor for the pope when Henry decided to become head of the church in England.

    I believe God answered Tyndale's dying prayer partially through the actions of the almost certainly-not-Christian Henry.
     
  18. Turpius

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    I use Tyndale sometimes along with my KJV
     
  19. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    We actually have a Tyndale in our local town library.
     
  20. Turpius

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    And I thought you had a lousy library over in Naas!
     
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