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Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Walls, Feb 16, 2004.

  1. donnA

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    gb93433, I really don't care what you buy. I can only tell you what the W-2 said for that year. My husband didn't get paid by the hour, believe it or not there are no laws governing how much or little a farmer can pay an employee, there is no such thing as minim wage on a farm. As I said it was $10. and there is not farm work everyday. If it's raining they only thing they had to do was ground feed, if they needed no feed there was no work at all. Snow and ice on the ground, again no work. Spring and summer had a lot of work, some days he wouldn't come home till after dark, after leaving home at 6:00am.
    All in all, what you believe carries no wait on the truth nor do I care one bit.
     
  2. dianetavegia

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    Jim, that was back in the 1980's. We've lived in Georgia since the early 1990's but, yes, it was a full cord 4 X 4 X 8. The guy would also cut lengths accoring to your wishes. Our stove wasn't as wide as a fireplace insert so what he delivered us was 12-18" lengths. Very nice fella. Hardwoods were plentiful in Connecticut back then. I don't know about now. However, our house was always nice and warm and it sure was a blessing cost wise! It was WORK to keep a fire going but then we didn't have the severe cold Canada does. I'm sure we were a lot colder than Kentucky tho.

    Diane
     
  3. Jim1999

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    Diane: Yes cordwood has gone up in price along with oil, but the fact remains it is a lot cheaper than is oil.

    A Franklin Fireplace is not very efficient and had you had a good stove, like a Vermont Casting Vigilant, you would have heated yourself out of the house. We can roast ourselves out here. We do have electric baseboard in the bathroom upstairs for baths and all.

    I did a quick calculation on the costs of hooking a computer up to an ISP, telephone and electricity, and that rounds off at $960.00 a year. That takes a big bite out of just a couple of thousand a year income. I remain puzzled!

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  4. donnA

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    It frequesnly gets below 0 here,and I remember several winters where the wind chill was -50. One winter a few years ago the actual temp was -10 in day time. We get up to 3 feet of snow some winter at one time, and we do have ice storms where everything si covered, electric lines down for weeks at a time in some areas, 3 or 4 inches of ice on the road, trees broken down, porch roofs soemtimes fall off from the weight. We aren't far enough south to have warm winters. When you heat with just an old type wood stove you heat one room. The better stoves that warm the house are too expensive for someone who has to heat with wood. No one here buys wod by the cord, again too much money at one time.
     
  5. donnA

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    You are ineffect trying to call me a liar. I do not appreciate it.
    I have never once said we still live on a farm, and what I said is quite the contrary to what you are attempting to say.

    I should have known better then to think I could share anything from my life with christians here. People here do not act like christians, they do not care about anyone or anything but themselves and being better then everyone else.
     
  6. gb93433

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    It is obvious you don't like what I wrote you. But there are others who have appealed to you as well.

    Here is what you wrote in one of your earlier posts, "I'm not sure some even realize just how little $2,500 YR income actually is."

    I grew up on a dairy farm so I know what that life is like. We got up at 3:30 AM to milk the cows and then the kids went onto school.

    If your husband really makes $2500 per year then I would suggest that you change farms or jobs. I did farm labor growing up. Back in 1969 my dad paid young temporary workers $1.00 per hour. These were high school kids. My father in law is a farmer and pays his workers more than 10 times what you listed and provides a home for them too along with 1/2 of a beef for the year.

    Depending on how the farm is run will determine if they fall under the minimum wage law for an agricultural business.

    If you want to make more money so you can give more it isn't that hard to find a better paying job anywhere.
     
  7. donnA

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    I said he made that much then, I have never said he does now. My husband has a better paying job now.
    No oe here pays what you are talking about for hired farm hands, no one. If you even get a house it's a shack, and you get less wages for it. And no one gives you food for working for them. Those things are not reality here for the people still ahving to live that way. thanksfully there are fewer and fewer, now most people employ hispanics, now there are laws to govern their wages, but not for american farm workers.
     
  8. donnA

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    I'm not sure where this number came from, but a quick caluclation of my expenses tells me this is no where near true.
     
  9. gb93433

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    You are ineffect trying to call me a liar. I do not appreciate it.
    I have never once said we still live on a farm, and what I said is quite the contrary to what you are attempting to say.

    I should have known better then to think I could share anything from my life with christians here. People here do not act like christians, they do not care about anyone or anything but themselves and being better then everyone else.
    </font>[/QUOTE]I don't think anyone has called you a liar. We just don't understand how it is that you could even possibly exist on 2500 dollars per year. Could you explain it to us.

    IF I even worked at McDonalds for minimum wage that would be at least 10,000 dollars per year. That is four times what you said your pay is. The last time I made less than 2500 dollars was when I was in high school. The numbers just don't seem to stack up especially when you consider that welfare pays more than $2500 per year. I worked not far from where you live and there wasn't any employee who made that little. If you paid rent of about 200 dollars per month that would eat up all of your money with none left for anything else. So how do you explain living on 2500 per year? I am curious.
     
  10. ShagNappy

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    And what exactly is meant when one says, "I don't buy that?" It is nothing more than calling someone a liar, or, at the very least, casting doubt on their truthfulness. Pretty disgusting attitude. Especially when you turn around and deny saying it....
     
  11. donnA

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    My sons both work fast food for minnium wage neither one made anywhere near $10,000. last yeat. As a matter of fact one of them worked for McDonalds for almost 3 years and never made that much.
    Apparenlty you can not understand. Our income is currently much more then $2,500. And if you don't believe me then tought luck for you.
    I have never had welfare in my life, excuse me.
    I have already spoken about rent.
    First house my husband got with his labor, $6. day pay, when we moved because the guy didn't want to pay we lived in a trailor, again for labor, and $10. day, we moved from there and lived in the last shack we ever lived and hope to ever live in again, my husband made $10. and we rented the house for $45. month, again it was a shack, no bathroom, no hot water, freezing wood heat. The landlord told my husband if he was working and trying to take care of us and still could not make the rent we didn't have to pay it, he knew how little farm work payed. As if it's anyone business, in 1991 my husband started working for the factory he works for now, minnium wage, a few months later after saving up we moved to town, better house, still not much better then what we had lived in, but at least we had water and a bathroom, and gas heat, which costed less to heat a month then the last winter month we had heated with wood. Eight years later we moved to this house,which his boss bought for us when she saw what we were living in, she even let us choose the house, within her budget, still an even better then the last, but still less then $200. a month. My husband now makes just slightly more then $8. an hour.
    Is there any more you think you need to know about me? Becasue I'm getting pretty tired of this.
    If you'll see the widows thread on the other forum you'll see all this, and no one tought I was lying either. For which I am very offended.
     
  12. Jim1999

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    Sorry, but you seem to be the only one thinking about "lying". I simply said I was trying to understand. I have never been your way..I mean Kentucky. All the people I know who live in Kentucky are not struggling to make a living.

    By the way, when you first start writing this blurb, it really sounded like you were talking about the present.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  13. dianetavegia

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    I think Donna had given the time line back on the widows thread and most of us were 'chatting' on both.

    However, when we were researching Villa Rica before moving here in 1999 we found information saying the average person had 9th grade education, no diploma and averaged $9,000 a year in income. Of course, that's different now that the builders have bought out most of the farm land and built houses for the people working in Atlanta. Do a search on Mirror Lake in Villa Rica and you'll find homes at $500,000.

    We STILL have a lot of very poor people in the area. Most of them are older folk now. Drugs, spousal abuse, divorce, teen pregnancy... in those areas, we lead the country.

    Diane
     
  14. gb93433

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    I'm sorry I misunderstood. I thought you meant that your family was bringing in 2500 dollars per year now. So that is the reason why I said I just "didn't buy it." What you wrote later makes a lot of sense now.

    Thank you.
     
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