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US Imperialism Runs into Headwinds in Afghanistan

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Agent47, Aug 13, 2019.

  1. Agent47

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    Hard to take anyone serious that uses the word "Imperialism" in reference to the US. Good grief.:rolleyes:
     
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    Would you have applied same rules to Nazi Germany, just leave Hitler alone, to kill off the Jews and everyone else?
     
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    Denialism is a hobby
     
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    Sure. Nobody went after Hitler for butchering Jews, they went after his imperialism, when he started attacking other countries (Czechoslovakia,Austria...)
     
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    In all fairness, the world did not care about the Jews. We denied them entry into the USA and that was a direct cause for multitudes of their deaths.
     
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    @Yeshua1 has no idea of the US immigration history and I don't blame him. How many American ever read of SS St. Louis? The only immigrants to the US who have never been discriminated against are WASPs (White Anglo Saxon Protestants)

    Here is a recommended documentary
     
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    Those two countries were occupied without a fight. How much do you know about WW II?
     
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    you are right, that’s why Britain was busy appeasing Germany before the war. Listen, of all the reasons for WW2, persecution of the Jews was never one of them. The US turned away Jewish refugees right before the war
     
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    FDR turned away Jews because he was no good.

    As for Afghanistan, Trump campaigned on getting out. US forces have been compromised with Muslim elements and Trump has not stopped that. Pakistan is almost a combatant against the US in that war. We need a full alliance with India.
     
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    The Paks certainly do not help

    SA as well. Next time, we should tell them that we are not coming and to figure it out
     
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    Stop reading everything I share through Trump’s lenses. Afghanistan is not his skunk neither are the negotiations. But he is following them through so they may as well be his. Negotiating with terrorists is the clearest proof of failed imperialism
     
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    But America never consulted them when going there. They are there strictly for their own interest which is no more than proving a point; attacking the US has consequences but it quickly morphed into regime change which has totally failed
     
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    My question was should the allies have invaded Germany and stopped Hitler or not?
     
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    America was not the Imperalism Empire, as that Greta Britian long ago!
     
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    Do we as a nation have the right to amke sure ONLY legal immigration is allowed?
     
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    I don't think that the Taliban will keep any deal for more than thirty seconds. And as soon as we leave, terrorists from the Muslim world will flock to Afghanistan once again. I don't know how you get the rule that negotiating with terrorists is the clearest proof of failed imperialism when there is no one there to negotiate with other than terrorists. It is not imperialism when you go there because you were attacked from there on Nine Eleven.

    I think that you live in a dream world about what Islam is like. They are considered responsible for 240 million murders in the last 1400 years. They murdered 80 million in India alone. That liar Omar may stand up for homosexuals now but wherever Muslims become a ruling majority, homosexuals will be put to death.
     
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    It matters not whether Muslims have killed ten billion. I know when Christian I s kill you omit those in your count but every Muslim killing must be killing in the name of their faith .Lie to yourself about the superiority of your religion as you wish ,but this is not about religion but imperialism.

    The more we increase war in terror budget, the more terrorism grows. Makes me wonder whether terror is being manufactured to justify millitary spending

    To the subject
    Let other countries,however 'backward' be. Regime changes never work. Look at Iraq, Syria,Yemen,Libya, Somalia (watch Blackhawk Down if you are too lazy to read). And lately Venezuela. Nobody intervened in America civil war, why should they intervene when others are squaring it out?
     
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    We are not in the middle of a civil war. Muslims fight everyone all the time. We are there in a cradle of terrorism in a horrible country. Muslims have infiltrated our military and how it responds. Until Trump stops that things will not get any better. Obama is a nut.
     
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    Good jokes
     
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