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Vatican's Plans For US Control

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by antiaging, Mar 15, 2009.

  1. antiaging

    antiaging New Member

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    Many websites are on the internet exposing plans of the vatican [a recognized foreign government with its own embassies] to take control of the united states. Here are some quotes about that.

    http://www.pacinst.com/antichri.htm
    A QUOTE FROM ABRAHAM LINCOLN ABOUT THE CIVIL WAR

    “This war would never have been possible without the sinister influence of the Jesuits. We owe it to Popery that we now see our land reddened with the blood of her noblest sons. Though there were great differences of opinion between the South and North, on the question of slavery, neither Jeff Davis nor any one of the leading men of the Confederacy would have dared to attack the North, had they not relied on the promise of the Jesuits, that, under the mask of Democracy, the money and the arms of the Roman Catholics, even the arms of France, were at their disposal if they would attack us.” Charles Chiniquy, Fifty Years in the Church of Rome, The Wickliffe Press, Protestant Truth Society, Wickliffe Avenue, 104 Hendon Lane, Finchley, London, N3., 1885, p. 388.

    FROM CATHOLIC STATEMENTS

    We are determined . . . to take possession of the United States, and rule them; but we cannot do that without acting secretly and with utmost wisdom. If our plans become known, they will surely be defeated. — ibid, p. 373.

    How sad will their awakening be, when, with our out-numbering votes, we will turn them, for ever, from every position of honor, power and profit! What will those hypocritical and godless sons and daughters of the fanatical Pilgrim Fathers say, when not a single judge, not a single teacher, not a single policeman will be elected if he be not a devoted . . . Roman Catholic? What will those so-called giants think of their matchless shrewdness and ability, when not a single Senator or member of Congress will be chosen, if he be not submitted to our holy father the Pope? What a sad figure those Protestant Yankees will cut when we will not only elect the President, but fill and command the armies, man the navies, and hold the keys of the public treasury?

    Then, yes! then, we will rule the United States, and lay them at the feet of the Vicar of Jesus Christ [the pope], that he may put an end to their godless system of education, and sweep away those impious laws of liberty of conscience which are an insult to God and man!
    . . . The American people must be very blind indeed, if they do not see that if they do nothing to prevent it, the day is very near when the Jesuits will rule their country, from the magnificent White House at Washington, to the humblest civil and military department of this vast Republic. — ibid, p. 374.
    . No pope has ever declared himself in favor of freedom of religion or issued a decree to that effect, nor has the Roman Church ever established a free society anywhere. In view of what the Roman Church teaches her children in the parochial schools concerning her mission as the only true church, her right to suppress all other religions by force if necessary, together with her political and economic policies in those lands where she presently is in control, why should anyone doubt that a new Inquisition merely awaits the supremacy of Roman power when it will again burn and pillage and slaughter the 'heretics' all in the name of religion as it did in the earlier ages. Her position is that which opposes her, that which she terms 'error,' has no rights, and that its mere existence is a crime against the Catholic state. If and when the time comes to 'Make America Catholic, ' there is no reason to believe that she would hesitate to use her traditional methods. There is far too much history behind the Roman Catholic Church for us to believe otherwise" (Roman Catholicism, Boettner, 447).
    If you think there is no way this could happen again, then read these quotes carefully:
    "The Roman Catholic Church...must demand the right of freedom for herself alone" (Civilta Catholica, April, 1948).
    "We will declare a holy war; don't doubt it...The Catholic Church has a ponderous structure, but when we move, we'll smash anyone beneath us" (Charisma, May 1994, Bishop Sinesio Bohn). by Nicole Peoples

    Blue Print for a catholic America
    The Jesuits' plans for the take over of the US revealed by former Jesuit Alberto Rivera
    http://www.chick.com/reading/books/153/153_11.asp

    "The Catholic Church has the right and duty to kill heretics, because it is by fire and sword that heresy can be extirpated. Mere excommunication is derided by heretics. If they are imprisoned or exiled they corrupt others. The only recourse is to put them to death. For the highest good of the church is the Unity of Faith, and this can not be preserved unless heretics are put to death." -- (Prof. Hugh O'Donnell, auther of "The Ruin of Education in Ireland," page 3).
    Taken from "Uncle sam or the Pope Which?" page 117

    "It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country—the United States of America—are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated most of the wars of Europe." General Lafayette, 1799 Aide to General Washington Romanism: A Menace to the Nation

    "Between 1555 and 1931 the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuit Order] was expelled from at least 83 countries, city states and cities, for engaging in political intrigue and subversion plots against the welfare of the State, according to the records of a Jesuit priest of repute [i.e., Thomas J. Campbell]. Practically every instance of expulsion was for political intrigue, political infiltration, political subversion, and inciting to political insurrection." (1987) J.E.C. Shepherd (Canadian historian)

    There are more quotes and information at this website:
    http://www.spirituallysmart.com/quotes.html

    This book shows how they took over Europe, and they will do the same here. It is already happening.

    Very few people know anything about the Jesuits because of their extreme secrecy. Here is a description of them from the book The Great Controversy that shows the abominable character and deceptiveness of the pope’s Jesuits.
    “Throughout Christendom, Protestantism was menaced by formidable foes. The first triumphs of the Reformation past, Rome summoned new forces, hoping to accomplish its destruction. At this time the order of the Jesuits was created, the most cruel, unscrupulous, and powerful of all the champions of popery. Cut off from earthly ties and human interests, dead to the claims of natural affection, reason and conscience wholly silenced, they knew no rule, no tie, but that of their order, and no duty but to extend its power. The gospel of Christ had enabled its adherents to meet danger and endure suffering, undismayed by cold, hunger, toil, and poverty, to uphold the banner of truth in face of the rack, the dungeon, and the stake. To combat these forces, Jesuitism inspired its followers with a fanaticism that enabled them to endure like dangers, and to oppose to the power of truth all the weapons of deception. There was no crime too great for them to commit, no deception too base for them to practice, no disguise too difficult for them to assume. Vowed to perpetual poverty and humility, it was their studied aim to secure wealth and power, to be devoted to the overthrow of Protestantism, and the re-establishment of the papal supremacy.
    “When appearing as members of their order, they wore a garb of sanctity, visiting prisons and hospitals, ministering to the sick and the poor, professing to have renounced the world, and bearing the sacred name of Jesus, who went about doing good. But under this blameless exterior the most criminal and deadly purposes were often concealed. It was a fundamental principle of the order that the end justifies the means. By this code, lying, theft, perjury, assassination, were not only pardonable but commendable, when they served the interests of the church. Under various disguises the Jesuits worked their way into offices of state, climbing up to be the counselors of kings, and shaping the policy of nations. They became servants to act as spies upon their masters. They established colleges for the sons of princes and nobles, and schools for the common people; and the children of Protestant parents were drawn into an observance of popish rites. All the outward pomp and display of the Romish worship was brought to bear to confuse the mind and dazzle and captivate the imagination, and thus the liberty for which the fathers had toiled and bled was betrayed by the sons. The Jesuits rapidly spread themselves over Europe, and wherever they went, there followed a revival of popery.” — E. G. White, The Great Controversy, pp. 234, 235, 1911, Pacific Press Publishing Assn.
    http://www.pacinst.com/america.htm

    I have seen evidence that the vatican spy network has placed hidden cameras and microphones in the televisions. They can look and listen into people's houses. Also hidden microphones in the car radios. A signal can be sent to the cell phones to turn on the microphones when you are unaware of it.
    Disconnect TV when not watching it. Disconnect car radio. Take batteries out of cell phone when not in use.
    Unless, you don't care about possibly being spied on.
    Based on what I have read and what I have seen, I believe, they now control the office of the president, supreme court, parts of congress, the news media, entertainment industry, Federal judges (appointed by presidents), parts of law enforcement, parts of big bussiness and the undercover organizations of CIA, FBI, NSA, Secret Service. See vaticanassassins.org and click on Kolvenbach.
     
  2. annsni

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    Hebrews 11:6

    "So we can confidently say,

    "The Lord is my helper;
    I will not fear;
    what can man do to me?""
     
  3. tinytim

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    Here we go again!!!

    Get out your tinfoil!!!

    Please Mods.. stop this nonsense!

    Oh, and please don't delete this thread like the last one was deleted..
     
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  4. Magnetic Poles

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    I second Tim's request. This is a load of bull-oney!
     
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    OK, I will not hinder any further mocking.
     
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    I worry about O'bama, the radical leftists, or Islam, not necessarily in that order; far more than I do the pope. And that is my final word on this subject!
     
  8. matt wade

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    That's right...listen to OldRegular. It's the Islamists that are going to take over the country, not the Pope! :laugh:
     
  9. windcatcher

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    I will neither mock nor endorse the OP.

    What many of us don't realize or want to face is that there is a great evil working in this world and through the hearts of men: Most of us are too small to have experienced it. Most of us have too many concerns already in our lives to have time to consider other things and do research. Most of us have realities and potentials within our own circumstances (job security, health issues, parenting, human relationships, economy, staying current and knowledgeble and responding to change), that we have little time for devotions and quietly seeking the LORD; and we have our own set of fears and alarms too many to get concerned over possibilities and warnings; warnings which come from outside our own experiences; warnings which may serve to paralyise us if taken too seriously...... or would involve too much of our time to study and weed out the truth from the false, and leave us with dreads for the new knowledge of something we cannot change and without the tools to alter the garment in which the plan is worked, except through the tools we all ready have....... that of faith and prayer.

    So, to those who have fears....... to those who are afraid, consider the origin or source. Fear is False Evidence Appearing Real. There is only one we should fear...... and that is God. He sees all, knows all, and one can never hide from him whether its an action or just a thought. .......But move pass this fear, into salvation and the embrace of his love and let his perfect love give you confidence in God and let his love cast away all fear.

    Sometimes, when we fear..... and we all do have experiences of fear.... or I do even if some take exception...... I acknowledge that God is in control and his power is greater than [here I name the thing which I'm afraid of] and I acknowledge my weakness and fear of [that thing] and commit myself to God for safe keeping and removal or control of that fear.

    Reading the Word gives much peace and assurances as well as reminding us of God's promise...... And, in prayer, we talk directly to God like a child upon a father's knee, telling him our troubles and our successes, and listen to him, and praising him and commune with him in love.

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    But in defense of the OP..........
    A jesuit priest, who I think was later assasinated, by the name of Malliki Martin (sp?) wrote a book (title?) in which he exposed corruption in the RC: He and others have exposed corruption in Vatican City, in the halls and wells, sewers and basements, of what so many accept as being the center of the one and true church and faith. If what they say is without documentation, it is because the information which they either witnessed or read, was archived in such a way with controls that presentation for public scrutiny was out of the question, and opportunities for hand copying limited: But what these sources have revealed....... if what they say is true....... the conspiracy for power and control of both nations and people, and those within their own hierarchy supecedes any call to proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ: If what these and others, who have had intimate knowledge and experiences from within the RC is to be believed, then there are occult rituals and practices designed to work the powers of demonic influence over the instruments and lives of people in positions of power.
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    Addressing another issue:
    I don't think I'd go so far as to attribute to the RC, the design and possible use of the cell phone as a spy tool. But the fact exist that whether or not it is already in place..... there have been discussions in areas of leadership in our own country regarding practical security purposes of using such or similar devices to target conversations and locate people. To what extent and whether for political or religious purposes or other purposes such might be used outside the scope of legitimate criminal investigation or terrorist and national security control....... is too much to boggle the imagination ......

    Beyond being aware of the possibilities and potential uses or abuses of that technology..... I don't concern myself with fear because of it. My driving habits haven't changed, my work habits never changed (although there.... where I knew there was a camera....I might dance a brief jig for the monitor and video), there is no difference in my shopping habits, and whether its a day that I limp along bent or am able to walk straight I still negotiate a sidewalk, ailse or street in the same manner..... nothing is any different in my life-style because of the additional cameras on street corners, in businesses, or at stop lights, or work.
     
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  10. Magnetic Poles

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    I will mock the OP. Anyone who thinks the Pope has hidden microphones in our televisions has a serious disconnect from reality.
     
  11. windcatcher

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    So you suspect that the poster has a problem or is sick?

    Yet you choose to mock the poster?


    Is this the stuff you're made of?
     
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