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Virgin Birth

Discussion in 'Baptist Colleges & Seminaries' started by DeclareHim, Jun 13, 2004.

  1. DeclareHim

    DeclareHim New Member

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    We had a guest speaker this Sunday that pretty much came out and said SBC College's teach that Jesus did not have a virgin birth. I know this is totally wrong I know they dont teach that and was just curious if some of you that have actually been to a SBC college could just give me a personal testimony that they dont just so I can say I have talked to someone that has been and they said it wasn't taught thanks.
     
  2. pinoybaptist

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    Probably depends on which SBC College it is. Not saying it's true, though, but you know how they say where there's smoke, there's fire.
     
  3. Paul of Eugene

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    Hmmph. I'll go out on a limb a say that is a plain slanderous falsehood.

    Did the guy say "SBC Colleges", just like that, implying that they every one of them toe the "party line" that Jesus wasn't born of a virgin?
     
  4. Bro Tony

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    Went to Wayland Baptist University in early 1980's, they taught the virgin birth. I have been a pastor in SBC churches for 20 years and have never heard of any of our schools teaching other than the virgin birth. There are things wrong in the SBC, but this person sounds like he has an agenda and will say anything, regardless of its truth.

    Bro Tony
     
  5. rsr

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    Eugene said:

    "Hmmph. I'll go out on a limb a say that is a plain slanderous falsehood."

    Enough room on that limb for someone else?
     
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    I graduated from Union University in 2002. Union is the oldest SBC school in America. I am pretty sure none of my professors would deny the virgin birth. One I am not sure about, but I think even he (if push came to shove) would affirm it. Of course, Union is a pretty conservative school that is growing more and more conservative as Dockery molds the school into what he wants it to be.

    Lon
     
  7. TaterTot

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    I have been affiliated with several Baptist Colleges (SBC) as well as NOBTS. This heresy has NOT been taught.
     
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    Now does this include Baylor? Might there not be a prof there or Wake Forest, etc that does not accept the virgin birth?
     
  9. Paul of Eugene

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    I'll move over and make room for ya. I attended California Baptist College, to many years ago to reveal, and they taught the virgin birth. My daughter attended Grand Canyon University in Arizona and they taught the virgin birth.
     
  10. Daniel David

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    During the liberal years, it wasn't uncommon to deny just about all the fundamentals (though still rather quietly).

    Nowaday, it is the fringe, worthless baptist groups that have that same struggle like the CBF, BGCT, etc.
     
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    The Virgin Birth is a compulsory doctrine in the SBC. If this guy is voicing his opinion that the Virgin Birth wasn't the Virgin Birth, he's strictly speaking for himself and not the SBC.
     
  12. DeclareHim

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    Well he did not say SBC at the time but he had just been talking about them before and then he talked about denominational colleges that denied the virgin birth. I know he was talking about SBC college's because he taught about them the whole time this one area was the only one he didn't really say SBC. He just implied.
     
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    Another worthless slam of the BGCT by DD, I know many in leadership of the BGCT, dont know a one that denies the virgin birth. Do you or are you once again slandering for the fun of it?
     
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    How could anyone deny the virgin birth of our Lord Jesus Christ and be a Christian? I've never heard of a Baptist of any kind that denys the virgin birth.
     
  15. Daniel David

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    It isn't just a matter of denying the Virgin birth. Does one believe it is an essential doctrine. That is the question.
     
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    Goes to show some are good liars. Ask that man for the facts instead of opinion. He forgot his mandate from God to get it right and to speak as it were the oracles of God.

    Goes to show how much some study God's word instead of listening to opinions.
     
  17. Jimmy C

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    DD

    Everyone that I know in Baptist circles - BGCT, SWBTS, my own pastor and fellow deacons believe that the Virgin Birth is an essential doctrine.

    I will ask you the question once again - do you actually know someone in SBC/BGCT leadership that believes otherwise or are you content to slander and run
     
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    I always shudder when I hear guest speakers (or even pulpit ministers) throw out an accusation like this. Usually its done to incite fear and draw the listeners under the speaker's "authority" and "protection". I have in the past, and will continue to, challenge face to face these speakers' accusations. Many times they will run and hide behind some rhetorical device or illusory arguments. Too bad this problem has plagued our churches since Christ's day.
     
  19. Trotter

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    I am SBC. And I know that once-upon-a-time the SBC was pretty liberal. Thankfully we got some people in the driver's seat that have a little bit of sense (and backbone).

    At one time you probably could have heard that kind of trash in a SBC school, but I seriously doubt it now. Oh, there might be an occasional heretic hiding out in one or two, but those days of liberal highballing are over and done.

    It just kills me when people bash the SBC. Especially when they do it by using general, generic statemnets that apply to the 'dark ages' of the liberal days of the SBC. Just goes to show how STUPID some people are, I guess.

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
  20. go2church

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    What a bunk of bunk! There are SBC, IBF, ABC and BGCT and whatever other kind of baptist out there that have left orthodox theology, that must mean all SBC, IBF, ABC and BGCT folks are terrible evil people. The problem is with the individual not the school....please grow up!
     
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