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Voting Record of Barack Hussein Obama

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, May 12, 2008.

  1. LadyEagle

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    On the first page there 100 chances to vote, he voted only 45 times. Is this normal for senators to negelect voing over half the time?
     
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    Now there is some experience!:thumbs:
     
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    A voting record - substance.

    Thank you.
     
  5. KenH

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    Having to defend a voting record is a major reason why we have not had a sitting senator elected president since John F. Kennedy in 1960.
     
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    And now we are stuck with three of them :)
     
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    A voting record will tell us who a person and what they believe.
     
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    Not really. Amendments and add ons often cause a legislator to vote no on a bill they agree with, but cannot in good conscience, vote to enact the amendment with it. For example, let's say there was a bill called the Sanctity of Life Bill, totaly outlawing abortion. But someone tacks on an amendment in committee that adds funding to promote gay marriage. Now Senator Billy Bob is against gay marriage, so he votes against the bill. His opponent in the next election, State Senator Susie Bell, runs adds calling Sen. Billy Bob a "baby killer" since he voted against the Sanctity of Life Bill, even though Senator Billy Bob is staunchly anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage. This kind of thing happens all the time.
     
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    Another excellent thread - substance.

    Why is it that these excellent threads slink into oblivion while the sensationalist threads thrive?
     
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    Because when we post up substance, we get called racists, and the thread goes into personal insult mode.
     
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    Because the Politics forum on Baptist Board is no different to general culture where, logic, reason, facts, etc., take a secondary place to the biases of people and the mouth-foaming loonies on all sides with their parroted talking points coming forth from their loyal followers.

    Just my dispassionate opinion :laugh:
     
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    I could not agree more. I have rarely been to a board where there is so much rhetoric and unsubstantiated innuendo as I see in the Politics forum of BaptistBoard.

    Example: Even this thread contains a reference to Mr. Obama's middle name of Hussein. This is a prime example of the problem - the use of Mr. Obama's middle name really only has one explanation, and a cynical one at that: an effort to assert an otherwise unsubstantiated association between Mr. Obama and America's shadowy and ominous Islamist extremist enemy or to appeal to xenophobia. Ok, 2 reasons, then.

    Why not take the high road and actually argue for such an association?

    Another example of the problem: In another thread, someone posted a clip showing a photo of Mr. Obama next to a camel. What do you suppose the point of that was?
     
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    A subtle, but legal, ad by R.J.Reynolds to lure black smokers off Newport and onto Camels.
     
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    I agree with this assessment, although it surely doesn't impact ALL votes. And I think we can probably get a reasonably fair assessment of a candidate's stand on basic, important issues across the board, especially when there's a long history/voting record.

    But, to be fully fair and get a completely accurate assessment, how can we determine WHY a vote was cast? Is there some kind of scorecard/record of that information somewhere, so that a real, full assessment of policy/viewpoint can be determined?
     
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    Following your logic I pulled this data from the same site...

    McCain:

    John McCain has missed 335 votes (59.2%) during the current Congress. See a list of his missed votes since 1991 or see a full list of vote missers.


    Obama:

    Barack Obama has missed 232 votes (41.0%) during the current Congress. See a list of his missed votes since 1991 or see a full list of vote missers.

    Clinton:

    Hillary Clinton has missed 174 votes (30.7%) during the current Congress. See a list of her missed votes since 1991 or see a full list of vote missers.


    Does that mean that Hillary is the better Senator?? :rolleyes:

    Jamie
     
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    You are exactly right!! Ron Paul got hit with this while he was running.. He wouldn't vote for a bill that had crap added to it that he didn't support, and yet they sure did point out how he was pro this or against that without even bothering to look at the bill and what he was voting for or against.

    Politics...

    Jamie
     
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    Andre, what is it about Obama's middle name that gets your boxers in a bunch every time you see it? It's like Obama hired you to defend his name. Give it a rest. If his middle name was really not Hussein I could see your point. If people choose to call him by his middle name, so what? All you do is bring more attention to it by continuing to discuss it in every instance it is used. Chill, man.
     
  18. Andre

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    Tell you what, I will "give it a rest" when people stop engaging in this kind of rhetoric that has no place in Christian discourse - that's the way the world does politics, not the body of Christ.

    If you can give me one legitimate reason for the use of the middle name, I will stop bringing this up. Although Dragoon mounted an argument, and a polit one at that, I ultimately will respectfully state that I did not think it really worked.

    Mr. Obama's middle name is referred to much more frequently than normal. There must be a reason for this and it certainly cannot be "well, that's his middle name". The only explanations I can think of are these:

    1. An otherwise unsubstantiated attempt to associate Mr. Obama with Islamic extremism (or Saddam Hussein);

    2. An appeal to xenophobia.

    What other explanation do you have?
     
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    How about this.......

    Obama is the least dangerous man in the world, with Hussein in his name.....:wavey:


    Just teasin', his middle name has nothing to do with me hating just about everything he stands for.
     
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    I have an explaination. It's called getting back at the liberals who have continuously disrespected President Bush by calling him "Dubya." Hmm. I don't see any Obama supporters complaining about the excessive use of our President's middle initial.
     
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