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WAR PROTEST

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by I Am Blessed 24, Mar 30, 2003.

  1. I Am Blessed 24

    I Am Blessed 24 Active Member

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    (This was written by a friend of mine whose husband is deployed. I'm not sure when it was written, I just received it today.)

    To nobody's surprise there were protestors today in DC, they attempted to disrupt the metro system and block the Key Bridge, a leading artery into DC from Northern Virginia.

    I got hosed twice because I come in from NOVA on the metro and it is raining hard which makes traffic worse anyway...to the point ...I got off my train in Rosslyn because I had to use the bathroom.

    When I was getting back on the train, there were protestors on the train platform handing out pamphlets on the evils of America. I politely declined to take one. An elderly woman was behind me getting off the escalator and a young female protestor offered her a pamphlet, which she politely declined.

    The young protestor put her hand on the old woman's shoulder as a gesture of friendship and in a very soft voice said, "Ma'am, don't you care about the children of Iraq?"

    The old woman looked up at her and said, "Honey, my first husband died in France during World War II so you could have the right to stand here and bad mouth your country. And if you touch me again, I'll hit you over the head with this umbrella."

    I'm glad to report that loud applause broke out among the onlookers and the young protestor was at a total loss for words.

    BRAVO!

    [​IMG]
    Sue
     
  2. Abiyah

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    I love truth!!
     
  3. post-it

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    A good answer would have been... "Yes, and our war will stop 5000 children from dying every month because of Iraq's lack of medicine and child care because Saddam insists on keeping his WMD." [​IMG]
     
  4. LadyEagle

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    Excellent! [​IMG]

    These war protestors should get jobs. [​IMG]
     
  5. InHim2002

    InHim2002 New Member

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    most of us have jobs
     
  6. I Am Blessed 24

    I Am Blessed 24 Active Member

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    The anti-war demonstrations should have stopped when the war started. :confused:
     
  7. Matt Black

    Matt Black Well-Known Member
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    Why? Because you've started doing something we regard as wrong instead of merely talking about it, that suddenly makes it right??

    YOurs in Christ

    Matt
     
  8. Abiyah

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    Why do you assume that we should own the same
    opinion as you do? We don't. Neither do many of
    those who went over as shields agaiinst the war,
    because while there, their eyes were opened to
    what the people of Iraq are going through.

    If it were your country, where girls were systema-
    tically circumcized, women raped because of
    family political views and/or statements, and
    people were kept from having the simple things of
    life -- little thngs like food -- you would be wanting
    help, too. For example, would you want your
    wife and daughters raped, and their heads planted
    in your front yard, becuse of your political stance?
    Would you want your adults sons run through the
    plastic shredder, feet first? We find such things
    difficult to believe, more difficult to comprehend
    but the Iraqis don't, because they live this stuff
    daily.

    We tried talking. We tried reasoning. What we got
    werea continuation of lies, cover-ups, theft, and
    continued human attrocities. Laugh all youu want
    about Bush being more and more deliberate in why
    we are there, but if you dont want Nazi-like rule to
    continue, let the soldiers do their jobs and come
    home to people who welcome them without rancor.
     
  9. post-it

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    Postest are done by the minority view of a nation, this is why they HAVE to protest. Which means the majority is sitting at home content with the way things are while watching those that aren't on Television.

    Right and wrong has nothing to do with minorities or majorities, but rather what prayer leads us to believe.

    The bottom line on war for me is which will save more lifes in the long run... period?

    I stand on the side of war to save lives in Iraq. But did we create the mess in Iraq? Most likely, now we have to clean it up. To right a wrong is usually the answer to a countries prayer, thus this war is an answer to prayer.
     
  10. Matt Black

    Matt Black Well-Known Member
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    Abiyah, with the greatest of respect, your tirade has not answered my question (which was directed to Sue). If you want to use emotional rhetoric and polemic, I can play that game too:-
    Sarah

    That's from one of our daily newspapers here.

    Yours in Christ

    Matt
     
  11. I Am Blessed 24

    I Am Blessed 24 Active Member

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    Maybe not Matt; but it certainly makes anti-war demonstrations a mute point.

    Since the war has already started; what good can possibly come from continuing to protest? We are not going to turn around and come home. :confused:

    Most of the posters on this board who are still protesting the war are from other countries. Why is that?

    Blessings,
    Sue
     
  12. Abiyah

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    Well, Matt, I get it. When I give reasoning for why
    we are involved and why we support our troops, it
    is a "tirade." When I answer some of your posted
    criticism of my country, you underhandedly attack
    me because your post was not written to me. If all
    you have is empty criticsm based upon your hurt
    feelings caused by my supporting my country and
    my factual responsse, then you have nothing at all.

    I tried to read from your link, but it was a big, empty
    red page, nothing to read.
     
  13. Matt Black

    Matt Black Well-Known Member
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    Abiyah, I apologise for appearing to be underhand; that was not my intention. The point I was trying to make is that arguing from an emotional point of view does not probably get us very far; I have to confess that I was also a bit annoyed because my original question had not been answered (Sue has now given a response), and for that I apologise too. The Mirror link also doesn't seem to work - it's not my day! However, if you type 'Sarah' into the search, it will give you the link to the story I was on about

    Yours in Christ

    Matt
     
  14. Preacher Nathan Knight

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    Protesting against the government in any form or fashion is against the Word of God. The Bible teaches us to follow the rules and laws of our govts unless it henders us from spreding the Gospel. Whether you agree with the war or not, it is happening and no one will stop it until it is completed. The protesters are wasting their time and efforts. Why not take that time and use it to witness to the lost and dying world, or to support your local church or missionaries.Aint it strange how the "peace" protesters are more violent than some of the terrorist groups or extremist enviromental groups. To those protesters I say Get a Life, and the live it for Christ. [​IMG]
     
  15. Mike McK

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    As much as I disagree with the protestors, the people are the government and under our Constitution, we have the right to protest, provided we don't break any laws in the process.
     
  16. Matt Black

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    Rather bad news for Isaiah, Jeremiah, Amos, Hosea, Nathan, Ezekiel etc and..er...Jesus

    Yours in Christ

    Matt
     
  17. Abiyah

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    Matt --

    I tried again to read your link, and this time, I got a
    big empty white frame on a red background.

    We never supposed that in a war, no one would be
    hurt, that people would not suffer. Throughout the
    ages, such are the effects of war. What the Iraqi
    people have told us is that they know some will
    die without realizing their desire for freedom, most
    will suffer, and all will be far more than inconven-
    ienced, but they are sick, starving, and dying
    because of the present regime, and the want it to
    end. Does it not matter what the majority of Iraqis
    want?

    When WWII was going on, and we were dragging
    our heels, we were criticized for moving to slowly.
    In 2003, we have shown initiative, and we are being
    criticized for that. We here in the U.S.A. are quite
    used to being criticized for everything we do and
    don't do; it has been going on since we fought for
    freedom from the British -- a good move for us,
    but we have now been friends for some years. 8o)

    One of the things you may not understand is this:
    We are determined not to allow what happened to
    our soldiers who fought that "police action" in Viet
    Nam happen to this new set of soldiers who are
    fighting in Iraq.
    While this may seem like a side
    issue to the reasons we support the war, all of it is
    one piece to us. To tear it apart would be like
    sending the teams to the field and demanding they
    play football without the ball. Every element is
    important to us.
     
  18. Preacher Nathan Knight

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    Matt- If you are going to quote me at least dont pick out a single sentence and try to change the meaning of the whole context. The great men of Gog that you mentioned did go against their govt but not in a violent or destructive manner.They did it b/c it was hendering the work of the Lord. If you actually read my entire post you have seen that exception and not have tried to SPIN my words.Protesting is not the way for God's people to get things done. The early church, for example, was persecuted more than any other people. they felt more pain and distress than the Iraqis ever will. But what did they do? did they protest?no Then what did they do? THEY PRAYED!!!! that is how the people of God get things done, they pray.

    Mike- Yes they do have the right, but then again a woman has a "right" to have an abortion. just b/c we have the right doesnt mean that it is not wrong.
     
  19. Mike McK

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    I'm not sure I see the correlation between peacefully protesting and ripping a baby apart limb by limb in the womb.

    In this case, it is right. You can't say that we have to honor our government and then ignore the fact that our government gives it's citizens the right to speak.

    If we're going to honor our government, then we have to recognize that part of the process that makes our government work is that the people must have the right to speak.
     
  20. Preacher Nathan Knight

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    I fully believe in the freedom of speech. without it we would not be able to do our job as Christians as freely as we do. Once again, the right to protest is fine, but in my opinion it should not be done. i believe that the greatest power that we have is prayer. prayer does change things. but if God is allowing this war to happen only he can stop it. you can protest all you want to but it will have no affect. Let's pray, not protest.
     
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