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Warmongers Are Anti-American

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Oct 9, 2014.

  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    The Pillars of American Thinking – The “Father of the Constitution” and the “Father of Free Market Capitalism” – Both Warned Against Warmongers … 200 Hundred Years Ago

    Adam Smith – the father of free market capitalism – wrote a scathing critique on warmongers in the Wealth of Nations 235 years ago:

    In great empires the people who live in the capital, and in the provinces remote from the scene of action, feel, many of them, scarce any inconveniency from the war; but enjoy, at their ease, the amusement of reading in the newspapers the exploits of their own fleets and armies. To them this amusement compensates the small difference between the taxes which they pay on account of the war, and those which they had been accustomed to pay in time of peace. They are commonly dissatisfied with the return of peace, which puts an end to their amusement, and to a thousand visionary hopes of conquest and national glory from a longer continuance of the war.

    Numerous economists have documented that war is horrible for the economy.

    The Father of the Constitution – James Madison – wrote:

    Read More At: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/10/father-constitution-explained-war-200-hundred-years-ago.html
     
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    This is certainly true for meaningless wars like Viet Nam, Afghanistan and Iraq. We spent a lot of money and shed a lot of blood for nothing. Those who support these kinds of wars either are going to get rich off them or they believe that America must be the supreme ruler of the universe. Defend ourselves yes. Stop dangerous tyrants like Hitler yes. No more meaningless wars.
     
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    Anyone who relishes war is sick, but anyone who lets evil flourish without lifting a hand to stop it is sick.
     
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    :thumbs: A true GI does not want war - he trains to be prepared to discourage a potential enemy from attacking - and he trains hard for when a enemy decides to attack anyways.

    The more we sweat in peace, the less we bleed in war.
     
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    THANK YOU:thumbsup:
     
  6. SolaSaint

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    amen!!!!!!!
     
  7. poncho

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    What about those who fund evil?

    The banks launder billions of dollars in illegal drug money every year.

    Evil flourishes because of it.

    What have you and Salty done to stop it? Supported the police state?

    The govt has been funding Islamic extremists since at least 1949.

    Evil flourishes because of it.

    What have you and Salty done to stop it? Look the other way? Blame the other side for it?

    The govt has been supporting evil dictators and overthrowing them when they get greedy or insubordinate.

    Evil flourishes because of it.

    What have you and Salty done to stop it? Help to overthrow one of Washington's uppity vassals? Support the troops that are currently doing it?

    Evil flourishes because we can't bring ourselves to admit the truth, our own govt funds and arms the enemies it uses to scare us into letting ourselves and our children be used as Wallstreet's mercenaries.

    Want to stop evil from flourishing? Then wake up.

    More than 40 years ago, the Nixon-Kissinger bombing of Cambodia unleashed a torrent of suffering from which that country has never recovered. The same is true of the Blair-Bush crime in Iraq. With impeccable timing, Henry Kissinger’s latest self-serving tome has just been released with its satirical title, “World Order”. In one fawning review, Kissinger is described as a “key shaper of a world order that remained stable for a quarter of a century”. Tell that to the people of Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, Chile, East Timor and all the other victims of his “statecraft”. Only when “we” recognise the war criminals in our midst will the blood begin to dry.

    http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2014/october/11/from-pol-pot-to-isis-anything-that-flies-on-everything-that-moves.aspx
     
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    Neocon watch

    Both the Democratic and Republican parties today house neoconservatives, and whatever their differences, they coalesce on foreign policies of war, empire, support for Israel, foreign interference, sanctions, an anti-Iran stance, and American exceptionalism. The Democratic Party has its left-neoconservatives like Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama. The Republican Party has its right-neoconservatives, and they are allied with the Christian Right and such media as Rupert Murdoch’s Fox.

    There is one War Party that includes both the left and right neoconservatives. Washington is under their control. No matter which of the two major political parties anyone votes for, the result is the same: neoconservatism in foreign policy. The left-right distinction is of no significant importance in this respect.

    The neoconservative ideas supported the invasion of Iraq in 2003, which was also instigated by the distorted ultra-nationalism of Cheney and Rumsfeld that fits right in with neoconservatism. They support Empire, hegemony, and the U.S. being the sole great power. They support a unipolar world.

    The neoconservative program claims to be tied to American values, to the Founding Fathers, and to America’s exceptional moral vision. These claims are totally false. One need only compare the vision of John Quincy Adams in his July 4, 1821 speech as Secretary of State to see that the neoconservative claims are a big lie.

    http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/neocon-watch.aspx

    It is rich hearing Donald Rumsfeld, who made some outlandish statements to advance the 2003 Iraq War he helped instigate and manage as secretary of defense, fault US President Barack Obama for not providing “clarity of vision.”

    Rumsfeld, in a Friday interview with Rusty Humphries of the Washington Times, says:

    Here are some examples of Rumsfeld’s “clarity of vision” before and in the early days of the 2003 US invasion of Iraq:

    And:

    http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/neocon-watch.aspx


    Max Boot lays it on pretty thick here:

    If that isn’t the exact opposite of truth, I don't know what is.

    http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/neocon-watch.aspx

    The Father of the Constitution – James Madison – wrote:

     
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