Was Judas saved?

SFC,

This is your own logical.

Bible tells us, Judas was a truly "disciple" and "apostle". Clear, he was saved at the first place when he was called by Christ. But, later afterward, he fell and betryal, he became lost and already lost in hell.

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 -Amen!

 

1. You need to address John 17:9, 12. Why didn't Jesus intercede for him? Why did Jesus say he kept all those the Father has given to him?

2. If Judas was given to Jesus he would not be the son of perdition (John 6:37, 39). No one the Father gives to the Son, the Son loses. No one.

 

The text you quoted says that he fell from his ministry and apostleship.

 

Understand, John 17:12 is speak of Christ's power to secure them(disciples) none of them that Christ lost, except the son of perdition, that the scriptures will be fulfilled. Same with John 10:27-29 promise us, no one included Satan can pluck just person out of Christ's hand LONG AS just person is continue follow Christ same. John 6:66 tells us, all of disciples were astray away from Christ. But, Christ knew they will repent back afterward, but Judas refused repent back to Christ right now, he repented himself and hnaged up himself to death. So, therefore, Judas stopped follow Christ at his death is lost in hell forever and ever.

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 -Amen!

 

Even the Roman soldiers (certainly not saved) who crucified Jesus, mocking Him while He hung on the cross were used by God. They gambled at His feet for the garments that were on the Lord.

And this was to fulfill prophecy.. God does use the lost for His purpose just as He used that lost Apostle Judas for His purpose

 

Do you believe that all preachers who are in church pulpits are saved?

 

1. Jesus does not say that. Rather, His sheep, because they are His, "Hear His voice, and I know them and they follow Me" (v.26).

2. The Bible says MANY, not ALL (John 6:66).

 

From his own steadfastness.

 

HP: What are you saying here? Were the actions of the soldiers and Judas nothing more than the coerced plan of God, those you mentioned unable to do anything other than to carry out God’s plan?

 

God uses certain of those who are lost for His purpose.

 

HP: So Judas and the soldiers were really doing nothing but obeying God?

 

God knows the heart. God knew that ultimately Pharaoh would turn against God's people, so He hardened his heart.

I believe had Judas and those particular soldiers not been used for the purpose they were used, they ultimately would have still died in their sins.

Even Pilate, used of God, turned Jesus over to be crucified. He said he found not fault in Him and washed his hands in a basin, yet condemned the Son of God to death.

I believe Pilate is still wishing he could wash that blood off his hands.

 

HP: Is it a sin to do something that is nothing more than carrying out the pre-planned purpose of God? I am wondering if you believe they voluntarily carried out their actions or if in fact they could do no other, being as you say ‘they were being used for God’s purposes?’

 

Did he cast out demons? He was with the other eleven when Jesus gave the command, but I cannot find a verse that says he specifically cast out demons.

The closest I can find is this verse:

But Judas was not part of the seventy. For at the beginning of the Chapter we read:

It is true that the 12 Disciples worked healings. We see this in Chapter 9. But they could not cast out devils. Chapter 9:40 states:

 

The Bible tells us what Judas fell from, "to occupy this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to go to his own place" (Acts 1:25). I didn't make it up. This is what the Bible says. Judas fell from his ministry and apostleship.

 

Agreed. It was his apostleship that Judas fell. Not from steadfastness. Had he been steadfast, he would not have fell.

Judas was not saved.