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Was this a loving act?

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by John3v36, Jan 7, 2003.

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  1. John3v36

    John3v36 New Member

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    Was this a loving act? :eek:
    Was Peter being Loving? :mad:
    Was Peter right in doing what He did? :eek:
    Should we do the same? [​IMG]

    To all 4 I would say Yes. [​IMG]

    Acts 8
    20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.
    21 Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.
    22 Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.
    23 For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.
     
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  2. Daniel David

    Daniel David New Member

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    Does anyone have a take as to the spiritual condition of Simon the sorcerer?

    Btw, Simon Peter was very loving.
     
    #2 Daniel David, Jan 7, 2003
  3. Pastor_Bob

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    When Jesus gave the power to heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demons, etc... He knew that this situation would arise.
    Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
    6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
    7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
    8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. (KJV)

    Their powers had not been purchased; they were not to be sold.

    IMO, Peter was demonstrating love when he rebuked Simon. Simon had zeal without knowledge. I believe his motives were right. Much in the same way Jesus had to rebuke Peter when He said, "Get thee behind Me Satan..." Matthew 16:23

    Jesus was certainly trying to teach Peter a valuable lesson; a lesson that could only be taught by a firm rebuke.
     
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  4. massdak

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    yes i would say that he was indeed saved as the verse would be misleading if he wasnt saved using the words (believed also)>>>

    Act 8:13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.

    the point is better confirmed in that peter said for simon to repent, if he doubted that simon was saved he would of surly mentioned that in better detail dont you think?
     
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  5. John3v36

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    yes i would say that he was indeed saved as the verse would be misleading if he wasnt saved using the words (believed also)>>>

    Act 8:13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.

    the point is better confirmed in that peter said for simon to repent, if he doubted that simon was saved he would of surly mentioned that in better detail dont you think?    </font>[/QUOTE]History would show us the he was one of the founders of Gnosticism.
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    [​IMG] Saint John
     
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  6. Abiyah

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    Being an enabler is not loving.
     
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  7. John3v36

    John3v36 New Member

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    I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean.
     
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  8. Dr. Bob

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    An "enabler" thinks they are loving by helping people cope with the circumstances of life.

    A "prophet" [read: baptist preacher et al] truly is loving by giving glory to God and proclaiming the truth.

    Dr. Luke said Simon believed, was saved, and baptized. I'll take his word for it.

    Apostle Peter said Simon needed to repent for his impetuous request. Again, I'll take his word for it.

    But dealing with the NEED that Simon had in a strong, confrontation, direct nouthetic approach is commendable and, truly, loving.
     
    #8 Dr. Bob, Jan 8, 2003
  9. Abiyah

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    Amein!
     
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  10. blackbird

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    I pray "Lord, make me a Peter so I can be less of a Simon! Amen!" He must increase, I must decrease! Less of me and more of Jesus until I reach a point where it is none of me and all of Jesus.

    Your Southern Baptist friend,
    Blackbird
     
    #10 blackbird, Jan 8, 2003
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