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We Have Forgotten His Grace...

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by TCGreek, Jan 26, 2009.

  1. TCGreek

    TCGreek New Member

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    There's a stench of legalism on BB that I dislike.

    I'm amazed at what is labeled heretical and false.

    Sometimes I wonder if we understand what it means to live gracious lives.
     
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    canadyjd Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps an example?

    peace to you:praying:
     
  3. StefanM

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    It has nearly driven me off the board on more than one occasion.
     
  4. Allan

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    Very true. I am contemplating stepping out - maybe completely.
    It can get pretty bad and then add to that me getting upset and adding to it! :BangHead: And that is something I can not stand.

    I enjoy the debating but not the ad-homs, condesending remarks, allusion to or out right stating they don't study the bible. Or if they did then they would have to come to 'their' same conclusions, as well as the term patentally being tossed around - heretical teachings. Not that you are a heretic specifically but that what you are teaching is a heresy. As if one does not make the other. On and on I could go... Yeah - fun stuff.

    I have learned alot from this board, and even from you TCG. But it seems to be sliding quickly (or maybe it is just me) toward a rather unwholesome flavor anymore.
     
  5. TCGreek

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    So you and I can sit together at the Table of Brotherhood, one an Arminian and the other a Calvinist. :applause:
     
  6. Allan

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    I am all for it. You can join some of my other Calvinistic friends who sit on both sides of me :)
     
  7. TCGreek

    TCGreek New Member

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    I quit worry about the finer points of Calvinism and Arminism, so I'm not much in the debates. :thumbs:
     
  8. mcdirector

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    There does seem to be an ebb and flow in the tone on the board though. That's what keeps me coming back.
     
  9. Aaron

    Aaron Member
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    You could sit at a table, sure, but work together in the Gospel?

    Wouldn't work. You'd each espouse methods and principles antithetical to the basic premises of the other.

    You would go your separate ways, because TC, you do not believe freewill to be the Gospel, and Allan, you do not believe Calvinism to be the Gospel.
     
  10. TCGreek

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    As a Calvinist, I do not believe Calvinism is the gospel.

    Calvinists who hold that calvinism is the gospel are dead wrong.

    Wesley and Whitefield both preached the gospel, even though one was an Arminian and the other a Calvinist.
     
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    Careful now...
    people will call you ecuminical :laugh:
     
  12. mparkerfd20

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    Maybe it should be renamed to the Pharisee Board? :tongue3:

    I'm in agreement though. It saddens me to see the attitudes here on a daily basis. It saddens me even worse that I have had to personally wonder if some people that are even proclaimed preachers here are truly in fellowship with God. I've never questioned someone on here confrontationally or personally and wouldn't do so, but that "discernment trait" that God gives to believers runs on high too often on these boards.
     
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  13. Aaron

    Aaron Member
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    Dispense with the semantics. You know what I mean. Citing Wesley and Whitefield proves my point.
     
  14. mcdirector

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    ha!
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    I haven't been posting here on this board for a while because of all the name-calling and, as Allan said, the ad homs and non-seq's and, like TC said, the things that are called heretical and the things that are heretical but not immediately called out to be so.

    It is good to discuss doctrines and practices if only to sharpen one's irons, but when we come to this board hoping to convince and convert one another, that feeds ego.

    Persuading a brother belongs to a church where all are supposed to be in agreement in points of doctrine and practice and one brother errs, or brings in what the congregation deems to be, error.

    Wesley and Whitefield may have belonged to different "persuasions" with regards how and whom Christ saved, but wherever each happen to be, it is Christ they preach, glorify, and point to and that, above all, is what is truly important.
     
  16. Marcia

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    I find this uplifting to read! Thank you, TCGreek! :love2:
     
  17. thegospelgeek

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    I felt this way when I first found the BB way back in 2008, but when I started reading who posted along with what was posted I noticed that is really only a few. Already I can almost predict who agrees with what . Except Marcia, sometimes she strongly agrees with me and other time she is strongly opposed. Either one or both of us are somewhat strange (I think it might be me). BUt I just ignore the name calling and rude remarks. Remeber everyone who claims to be saved may not be. Whicj make me wonder...

    are their atheist amongst us trying to dive us?????
     
  18. Marcia

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    I think what bothers me most are the false assumptions made about me based on something I say. I'm put in a category, usually one I don't belong in.

    For example, on the BB I have wrongly been assumed to be (none of these things are wrong, except maybe one though I question the reason the term is used, but they are not true of me): an Arminian, a Calvinist, a SBC member, a Republican, a Fundamentalist, one who worships the Bible, a person who thinks anyone not Baptist is maybe not Christian (that's a laugh since 5 of my 6 supporting churches are not Baptist and I speak in a lot of churches that are not Baptist), a RW basher, and others I can't think of now.
     
  19. Marcia

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    I know what you mean about predicting who will agree with you on something and who won't, although I continue to be very surprised sometimes.

    I guess you mean "divide us." Of course, I think some Christians are able to do this. But could be.....I think the mods do their best when people apply to join and they do what they can with the info given but there is only so much one can do to screen.

    However, I tend to think atheists wouldn't bother. Cultists, on the other hand, would be more likely to try to disrupt. I actually don't think there are that many hardcore atheists out there.
     
  20. thegospelgeek

    thegospelgeek New Member

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    So true. Please overlook my lack of attention to detail AKA poor spelling and proofreading.

    You would be the last one on the board that I think would fit into a box!
     
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