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We Need Another Reagan

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Aaron, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. just-want-peace

    just-want-peace Well-Known Member
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    I would like to know some specifics for this attitude.
    I really question someone who would celebrate the DEATH of a long since out of office president - smacks more of a little kid who's mama made him wash his hands before dinner, than a legitimate gripe about an action or policy of a president.
    I truly don't think your acquaintance could despise Reagan any more than I do the current president, yet I MOST CERTAINLY have no wish for his death! Out of office, ABSOLUTELY, and the sooner the better, but death-------- ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!
     
  2. Robert Snow

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    I love machinist's unions alright, but this shop was not union. Much too small.
     
  3. Robert Snow

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    I agree. I said I didn't participate with him in anything in this regard. It was mostly him complaining about Reagan's presidency. Another thing, many workers in this shop was from Viet Nam and did not speak English well, if at all. There were also a few from South of the border who spoke Spanish much better than English.
     
  4. Aaron

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    Okay, pro-union, then. Again, still a Socialist like yourself.
     
  5. saturneptune

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    Thanks for the kind words. I suppose the reason LBJ disguists me is his sacrificing thousands of American lives on a false premise. He too had corruption in the form of Billy Sol Estes. As far as Carter goes, it was a job above his ability. Really, there was nothing inherently evil about him.

    I will agree that Bush the Second was terrible. He left the economy and foreign policy in shambles. The fact is though, his successor is probably, as you said, the story is still being written.

    I know very little about Harding other than the Tea Pot Dome scandal, and that he died in office. Nixon could have been an excellent President, as he had the skill. Paraonia, distrust of the American people, and power were his downfall. He was a curious mix of good and bad. I actually got to shake his hand once.

    You ask why Reagan was rated a good President. I think a lot of it is that the interest rates for homes were so high when Carter left office (15%), and under his administration, they came down. He also rebuilt a gutted military.
     
  6. Baptist in Richmond

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    No problem at all - despite our political differences, we have a common bond in our Lord and Savior.

    Wouldn't disagree with you on LBJ. Many incorrectly attribute the welfare state to FDR. That is completely false - under FDR one had to work for their check. It was LBJ that better fits the description as the father of the welfare state.

    As for Jimmy Carter, I would agree on both counts. I have often wondered if those who voted for Carter were actually voting against the perceived corruption of a political party. If you believe what he writes (specifically the book "Our Endangered Values"), then it sure seems as though Carter is a Believer. He certainly gave a clear picture of salvation.

    IMO that was more a function of Volcker - who was appointed Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank. Reagan reappointed him, and the high rates were - again in my opinion - the result of Volcker and the Board of Governors raising the rate at the discount window, in an attempt to control the money supply. I know that many believe this was caused by Nixon taking the US off the gold standard in 1971. It certainly seem plausible, but who knows?

    Again, great post. I always look forward to reading your thoughts.

    Have a great Sunday,
    BiR
     
  7. Magnetic Poles

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    Another Reagan? You loved those tax hikes I guess. I could absolutely get behind Ron Reagan Jr. though.
     
  8. Robert Snow

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    Yes, he's the one Reagan I could support! :thumbs:
     
  9. carpro

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    I think that, deep down, it's a lot simpler than that. we can talk about the economy and wars and never agree.

    What I miss about Reagan is his leadership and ability to get things done, his faith in the American people, and his love of all things american.

    Obama doesn't share any of those traits. Neither did Carter.
     
  10. Robert Snow

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    How do you know that at least some of this was not acting on Reagan's part?
     
  11. carpro

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    I consider that weak response an admission by you that Obama and Carter did not share those traits.

    Some things you just can't fake.
     
  12. Alcott

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    Acting is one of the most essential requirements of a successful politician and I don't know of another professional actor who was president. It is a poor characterization of American politics to say the best actor wins, but it's largely true.
     
  13. Baptist in Richmond

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    Hmmmmmm......
    That's actually a pretty good point - applicable to both sides of the aisle.

    Regards,
    BiR
     
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