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We support you Great Britain

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by ASLANSPAL, Jul 7, 2005.

  1. OCC

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    Hmm...rally around England time now eh? Let's see...if oh say, FRANCE was a target for terrorism would you anti-french "freedom fries" kinds of people support France? Just wonderin...
     
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    Yes, we would support France. Unlike the French government, the US is not a "fair-weather" friend.
     
  3. OCC

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    I don't know nor do I care what the french government is like. I just asked a question. And uh...yeah I think the U.S. is a fair weather friend. After all we did to help and support you guys all we get is "Canada bashing" from proud, ignorant Americans because we didn't send our soldiers to Iraq. You know...those soldiers that you Americans insult every time you insult our military...yeah those guys. :eek:
     
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    I don't have a problem with Canada. Neither do I have a problem with a country not sending troops to Iraq. My beef with the French government is that they actively obstructed the actions for enforcing UN regulations when presented to the Security Council.
     
  5. OCC

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    Ok. Do you mean those same regulations that the U.S. is entitled to follow as well? I hear many Americans disregard "regulations" and say they'll do what they want. Are you talking about those regulations?
     
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    The US was not under UN sanctions. Iraq was. There is a fundamental difference. The UN should enforce its sanctions, and if it does not, it is not a viable body.
     
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    I did not say the U.S. was under UN sanctions. However, you guys went against UN regulations when you wouldn't wait any longer and attacked Iraq on your own didn't you? As for the UN should enforce its sanctions...that is typical of an American to say isn't it? Who are you to say how the UN should be run? I see a lot of UN bashing and Canada bashing on this site but you all cry like little girls the minute someone dares to comment on your country. [​IMG]
     
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    I do not see the UN as a viable body. I have no problem with the US exercising its sovereignty to do the work that the rest of the world won't do. I wish it didn't have to be this way, but if the US waited around for the UN to get involved, nothing would get done.

    Do I think the Iraq war was handled perfectly? Of course not. I'd just rather have a government that will light a candle instead of cursing the darkness.

    The thing about the US is that we DON'T cry like little girls. The US actually does something about it.
     
  10. OCC

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    Actually they do cry like little girls. YOu failed to post the rest of my statement.
    Everytime someone says one little thing about your country there are ten people on here crying like little girls.

    Whether or not you see the UN as a viable body is irrelevant. The fact is they exist. You cannot say on one hand that Iraq violated UN sanctions in order to justify a war and on the other hand say that you can violate UN regulations. It doesn't go that way.

    The US does something about it eh? Why don't you come up here and free us from our oppressive government? Set us straight. Make us like you guys. Why not? You all sure have enough to say about us...come and change things.
     
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    The UN ceased to be viable when their sanctions were no longer enforced. At this point, the US stepped up. We didn't go it alone and then complain about Iraq's disregard for sanctions; we complained first, pleaded for action, then acted ourselves.

    Is the US under sanctions? That's what happens when a violation of international law occurs. Just because the UN wouldn't go to war doesn't necessarily make it anti-UN to go to war anyway.

    The UN exists, yes, but it is merely a paper tiger with no real power.

    We might set you straight if you ever start using WMDs on your own citizens and institute an antagonistic, brutal dictatorship. :D
     
  12. OCC

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    Stefan, thanks for your explanation. It makes sense but I don't think the UN is a paper tiger with no real power. I believe it is going to rule the world. There will be no such thing as sovereign nations in the future I believe.

    LOL there will be no WMDs in my country and no dictatorship. Well...no brutal one anyways. We're too nice. lol
     
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    Anyways...let's get this thread back on topic. I am just angry about a lot of things...including the attack in London and I was annoyed. No need for us to keep going on. peace...
     
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    If the UN is ever powerful, I have a lingering suspicion that it will be the "UN" in name only. Ever since its inception, the UN has been controlled by the most powerful nations. If you mean a UN basically run by a powerful alliance of a few nations, that could happen. As it is now, though, I don't see them exercising much power. That could change. As for now, I think it's a paper tiger.

    Anyway, I'm about to hit the road. God bless.
     
  15. OCC

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    Yeah maybe you are right. UN in name only. I do believe it will happen though. God bless you too.
     
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