Westcott and Hort...

You have not provided evidence! You have provided slander, 4th-hand out of context quotes, and guilt by association. You reject first-hand writings because of your preconception. You have provided false witness.

You claim they did not believe in heaven. Provide the first-hand quote. If you cannot, you need to repent and retract your statement.

You claim they did not believe Jesus was God. Provide the first-hand quote. If you cannot, you need to repent and retract your statement.

You claim they believe Jesus was only "enlightened with the Christ". Provide the first-hand quote. If you cannot, you need to repent and retract your statement.

 

Very informative post, HankD! I wonder if it will receive a response, let alone an admission that her claim was wrong.

 

To use her own words, she just doesn’t understand because she doesn’t understand…

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.

King James, the KJV translators, Wescott, Hort, HankD…

This is folly looking into the life of any mortal man (Christ accepted) to commend them to God for the worthiness of their person or their work unless so commended by God himself who knows the hearts of all.

Hopefully she will see that soon.
Yes, folly on my part as well to show this truth:

KJV 2 Corinthians 10:12
For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.

NASB 2 Corinthians 10:12
For we are not bold to class or compare ourselves with some of those who commend themselves; but when they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they are without understanding

HankD

 

Michelle:And you are ignoring ALL OTHER EVIDENCE that speaks to the contrary, and them claiming I am slandering and bearing false witness. It is you who is guilty of this.

Michelle, YOU'Ve plainly shown your true colors in several manners. First, you reject evidence from your very own fave Bible, the KJV, which explains that Passover and the feast of unleavened bread are synonymous, and that the observance lasted 7 days, with several other ceremonies ordained to be observed within those 7 days. This shows you simply do NOT want to comprehend the TRUTH. And you said I was "autographs-only". But when I asked you to please paste any post from anywhere in which I said that, you refused to answer. This shows us your level of honesty.

I believe your credibility has bottomed out on this board, and you're only trying to go BELOW bottom with your latest set of empty perorations.

You say you're NOT KJVO, but you follow their party line to the letter...and when asked, since you say you're not KJVO, what other specific version(s) you recommend, you also refuse to answer. After such plain examples, do ya REALLY expect anyone to believe you, especially since you provide us to a link whose site is nothing but the same ole 30 + KJVO garbage which was shot down the first month it was published?

We have concluded that you simply have no idea what you're talking about. I understand you've not been a Christian very long, but I DO know you have a LOT OF BASIC THINGS TO LEARN about the Bible.

 

Michelle: The KJB translators murdered no one.

Some day, you may meet some Baptists who disagree vehemently.


The KJB translators did not have these heretical views.

At least one(Thompson) was a drunk. And MOST of'em were Neo-Catholics.(Anglicans)


The KJB translators believed in the deity of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and the infallibility of his words. Westcott and Hort did not.

You were provided a link that proved otherwise, from their own writings. But as usual, you're simply "non comprehende".

And it's moot, anyway. God can use ANYONE for ANYTHING. He used several pagan nations to punish His people, and He used the already-evil Judas.

 

Askjo: Hort did not believe that the Christ is God.

I assume you'll never blast a modern version for saying, "The Christ"?

Actually, you and they are both correct, as there is ONLY ONE true Christ.

 

Michelle:No. But their life and actions, and involvements say and show the opposite of what was written in that.

But...you have NO IDEA what either of those men DIED believing.

 

I believe your credibility has bottomed out on this board, and you're only trying to go BELOW bottom.

Please stop saying these horrible things; it is really unkind.

 

Slambo:I cant honestly say if Askjo is correct or not,but,I've never read any clear cut testamony from either of them concerning their conversion to Christ.Anyone have any info on that???

Looks as if RSR presented the closest testimony we have. But, VERY FEW of our conversions are recorded in public record on earth.

 

Michelle:Here is another link that I came across last night, that are eerily close to what Westcott and Hort said and what they also studied, and to whom people they were associates with seemed to believe. Please, dear christian, before reading this link, pray for discernment. As the following link is very gnostic.

Michelle, do you have any clue who the Essenes were? They were a sect of Jews, along with the Pharisees & Sadducees. They practiced extreme observance of the OT law, but also believed in MAGIC, and the sorcerers encountered by Peter and by Paul were Essenes.

I don't believe W&H had anything to do with them. But you're so desperate to find ANYTHING to attack W&H that you'll stoop to any depths.

 

Michelle:Just as many heretics and apostates have done, and continue to do. By their fruits you shall know them.

And by YOUR POSTS(fruits of your mind) WE know YOU! You're always telling us that left is right, dark is light and a car is a moose...and wonder why no one believes you any more.

 

Is it nearly as unkind as the things Michelle is saying about dead men who cannot defend themselves? Is it as unkind as Michelle judging men's salvation based on her bias against their beliefs on the scriptures?

Michelle is willingly deceived. She is so desperate to hang on to her KJVO beliefs that she will not even consider that these men's views might have been misconstrued.

 

Granny gumbo:Please stop saying these horrible things; it is really unkind.

But...It's the TRUTH. She stands convicted by her own words.

 

Granny, many of us here at the BB admire michelle for her tenacity and courage taking on the heavy weights almost single-handed here at one of the BB debate boards and she has thrown her share of punches, besides that, she chose to get in the ring and put on the gloves of her own free will.

HankD

 

Help! I'm drowning in double standards!

Michelle said "Westcott and Hort did not."

False witness.