What About the Greek? Part 1

Another example of turning the thread "What about the Greek?" into a KJO thing. I wonder why folks even bother to get on these thread if they are so incensed at the comments of those that they oppose. Surely, it is not to enter into honest discussion. -- Herb Evans

 

C4, I understand . . . very much so. Latch on to any slight comment that someone makes and use it to close the thread that you do not like. I'm used to it. But at the same time, you are telegraphing this to the readers.-- Herb Evans

 

Well, Herb Evans did not exhibit any hate in this thread. His opponents did, however. So what you are saying is that everytime a KJO starts a thread, his opponents can kill the thread by putting a little hate upon him. Obviously, a woman telling a man to shut up and falsely accuse him is to be ignored. What I do on my own debate list, as the mofderator, is to rebuke the offender as you sometimes have done. We have a smooth running debate list, and we do not have to micromanage it to get orderly results. And both sides are allowed to present their case.-- Herb Evans

 

I am not offended at hype and lack of substance. My opponents can accuse me of worshipping the KJB all day long without me being offended. I recognize that line of argument for what it is. Actually, it helps my case along with accusations of red herrings and straw men. -- Herb Evans

 

Yup, that is what I am saying, and that is what is being done along with provoking those KJO's to say something offesive as has happened to me. Now, I've given the game away. The way around it is either snip the offender's comments or rebuke the offender. -- Herb Evans

 

Back to the Greek and Bowels. -- Herb Evans


BOWELS

Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. (Acts 1:18). Bowels appears thirty-nine times in the AV in thirty-seven verses. The word comes from the French boel, from a Latin word meaning "a sausage." Bowels can be the interior of something, although the term is commonly applied to internal body organs in general and the intestines in particular. It also has the meaning of compassionate feelings. The NKJV completely removes the word, but our other modem versions slip up and leave it in on several occasions. The word bowels is variously rendered in our modern versions as "affections," "hearts," "stomach," "entrails," "body," "intestines," and "womb." In one passage where bowels is found, the simple word belly is altered by the NASB and NIV to "abdomen (Num. 5:22),” while converting the phrase "fifth rib" in the AV to "belly (2 Sam. 20:10)." In spite of these manifold corrections, the NRSV neglects to remove bowels on six occasions (Num. 5:22; 2 Chron. 21:15, 18, 19; Acts 1:18) the NASB forgets five times (2 Chron. 21:15, 18, 19; Acts 1:18) and the NIV overlooks this archaic word four times (2 Chron 21:15, 18,19; Acts 1:18). After leaving bowels in the text as it stands, the NASB in one verse gives us "and make your womb discharge, your uterus drop!" in opposition to all other modern versions. (Num. 5:32). Even today, however, the word bowels can be found not applied to the intestines: "These cosmic wraths only reveal themselves when the great torrent of other radiation is absent, which is why the enormous cavern has been built in the bowels of the earth."232

Archaic Words and the Authorized Version by Laurence M. Vance, p. 49

232 Wayne Campbell, “Probing the Neutrino Universe, Canadian Geograpahic, March/April 1994, p. 46-54