What are the KJOists going to do?

Oh, and welcome to the debate, saul^paul. Good to have you.

In Christ,
Trotter

 

I'm already planning for that future. I figure three hundred years from now, the KJV will be unreadable, and the ESV will be archaic and "spiritual" sounding. I am hoping to sow the seeds of a major ESVO movement, the only true Bible of 2384! Sure sure, many will say, "Look, when the ESV came out it was resisted by others who thought their version was the only valid translation (KJV) or their alternate version was just as good (NASB)" But that was the case for the KJV (should have seen how the true Christians reading the Geneva resisted the use of the KJV until the King of England cut off thier heads!). So I am trying to get as much in print now, defending the ESV as God's inspired Bible, replacing, indeed superceeding the Greek and Hebrew in every place! That way my predesorrs of the ESVO movement will be able to use me as a source for the TRUTH of God's word in 2384. I thank God He has finnally giving us His sure words in the ESV . . . . Thinline that is.

 

Like the answer Pete.

 

English today is a universal language. It is not likely that is will ever become as difficult to read as the Wycliffe translation or even the AV 1611.

 

Pastor_Bob,

I'm sure that they thought the same thing in 1611...

 

Maybe not as drastically but I think it will definetly change enough so as you can't read clearly the KJV.

 

"Can it be necessary to argue that no one can inflict a graver wound on the unity of the race, and on all the sacred interests which depend on that unity, under God, than by tampering with the English Bible? By the acclamation of the universe, it is the most faultless version of the Scriptures that ever existed in any tongue. To complain of its trifling blemishes, is to complain of the sun for its spots. Whatever may be its faults, they are less evil, in every way, than would be the evils sure to arise from any attempt to eradicate them; and where there is so much of wheat, the few tares may be allowed to stand till the end of the world.

The care with which the Hebrews guarded every jot and tittle of their Scriptures was never reproved by our Saviour. It is our duty and interest to imitate them in the jealousy with which God's Holy Word is kept in our own language. EVEN THE ANTIQUATED WORDS OF THE ENGLISH BIBLE WILL NEVER BECOME OBSOLETE, WHILE THEY ARE PRESERVED IN THE AMBER OF ITS PURITY; and there, they have a precious beauty and propriety which they would lack elsewhere." (emphasis mine)

Arthur Cleveland Coxe
"An Apology for the Common English Bible" (pg. 8)

 

Get real brother. You don't seriously think the KJB will fade off because of language do ya? It's in English man, and I don't see English fading away.

I'm not a prophet or anything, but I will prophesy, the King James Bible will be here even when Christ comes back.

 

The King James Version will *never* "fade off" because it's a literary masterpiece which has had an enduring influence on English literature. I believe it was my countryman Northrop Frye who once observed that when it comes to literary influences, Shakespeare and the KJV Bible divide the world. However, the KJV will of necessity "fade off" as the Bible of ordinary English-speaking people because of its archaic language and sentence structure. The English language changes over time; and just as the archaic Wycliffe Bible gave way to the then-"modern" KJV, so the archaic KJV will give way to modern English translations.

I agree. The KJV will be here... just as the Wycliffe, Tyndale, and Geneva Bibles will be here too.

 

For that matter so will the Douay-Rheims/Latin Vulgate.

HankD

 

Do you really believe this? Just what do you think we will be speaking?

I guess you can understand it all right? No one will ever completely understand the Bible, but man will try and try to write more versions to try to understand and in doing this, the word of God will fade even more from the modern versions.

You've got to be crazy. The only reason the KJB will be unreadable to the reader would be because of the modern versions and that people don't like reading it because it brings them under conviction. Do you not see that the church of today is more worldly than at any time? If we are still alive in 10 to 20 years, let us revisit this post and see.

 

Craig, do you go to a community church?

 

You've got to be crazy. The only reason the KJB will be unreadable to the reader would be because of the modern versions and that people don't like reading it because it brings them under conviction. Do you not see that the church of today is more worldly than at any time? If we are still alive in 10 to 20 years, let us revisit this post and see.

Really Homebound! Kinda like in 1611 when the KJV changed some things that made it different from the Geneva Bible.

Please stop attacking the Word of the Most High. It's not the bible version that is wordly but the person holding the bible. The NASB is more conservative that the KJV in many places like Jude 1:25 and Rev 22:14. Conviction is from the Holy Spirit and how do explain how so many people are saved through the NIV, etc....your statements are pure speculation based on KJVO propaganda!

I guess you can understand it all right? No one will ever completely understand the Bible, but man will try and try to write more versions to try to understand and in doing this, the word of God will fade even more from the modern versions.

Again another attack upon the Word of the Most High! Please refrian from attacking modern versions of the Word of God with your unfounded propaganda.

When your KJVO pastor preaches and comes to an archaic word in the KJV how does he explain what it means? What "modern" word does he use to explain the old words? Humm, kinda sounds like what a KJVO would call modernism.

Today many KJVOist are moving far away from the fundamentals of the faith. They allow Mrs. G.(god and) Riplinger to teach and spread her advanced revelations around the KJVO Camp without ever corrected her errors like denying the Eternal Sonship of Christ, telling lies, and slander. They have placed the KJV(which ever revision that you think is perfect) as an idol of worship instead of Christ. They slander and attack the Word of God as found in modern versions. I could list more but I don't have time....

 

That's called SYI (Share Your Ignorance)

I have never seen God ever use ignorance.

 

Pastor_Bob said:

English today is a universal language. It is not likely that is will ever become as difficult to read as the Wycliffe translation or even the AV 1611.

English has always, and always will be, a language in evolution. More so since, as you say, it is a universal language. Language changes with usage and with time. This is inevitable.

 

Homebound said:

It's in English man, and I don't see English fading away.

Well, you should have no problem reading this, which is in the purest form of English that ever existed (before being adulterated with all that French 1000 years ago):

I'm not even going to tell you what it is. It's English, so it should be obvious. Have fun!

 

And if you can't understand it, it's obviously because you lack "spiritual discernment." Anybody who was *truly* a child of God would be able to understand it.

 

I must have great spiritual discernment then! The quote is Genesis chapter 3 verses 1 through 6. It appears to be the Old English of the Aelfric translation dated to about 1000 AD.

 

That's one of the reasons that English is still around: Because it changes, adapts, and evolves. We no longer speak the every day language that the KJV was written in. Homebound's assertions make no sense. There's no scriptural support for denying us in the early part of the 20th century a translation that is written in early 21st century English. The KJV is not that translation.