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Featured What Bothers You About the Supremacy of God

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Particular, Oct 11, 2019.

  1. Alan Gross

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    Everyone that dies and is in Hell is a Calvinists, because they find out about the affect of Adam's Fall on their Nature before God, as a sinner that was Commanded to Repent of their sinful blindness, and they didn't.
     
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    They may also be telling everyone exactly what they think everyone wants to hear.
    I fight against the Supremacy of God everyday. I believe in it, but I also fight against it. I get bothered by God's insistence that I submit to his rule and authority over every aspect of my life.
     
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    You are right. I am daily in rebellion. This is why God's grace is so very, very amazing. He saved a wretch like me. (Truth be told, I often think of myself as an angel, but you and everyone else know my true nature.) Thanks for pointing out the obvious.
     
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    So now you're calling us liars. Really, just quit.
     
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    That is not your call you are not a mind reader.
     
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    I'm not telling you your anything. I am questioning anyone who says that nothing bothers them about the Supremacy of God. I have just expressed how God's Supremacy goes against my own nature and how it bothers me. Am I the only one who struggles against the bit? I doubt it.
     
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    So what?
     
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    You said people "may be telling what they think everyone wants to hear." That is implying that someone is saying something that isn't true.
     
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    They may be telling an untruth. Do you imagine everyone here is speaking their deepest beliefs with total honesty? I don't imagine that for one second.
     
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    Oh but you are....right? Man the hutzpa in this guy is astounding.
     
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    I actually find extreme comfort in the "supremacy" of God.
     
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    How so?
     
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    It's called an old nature.Everyone in Christ should be trying to over come it. It's what being an over comer really is. It's important to surrender to God because you cannot over come it by your self. If you'll just give up the fight and turn it all over to God You'll be amazed at just how much better things will be.
    MB
     
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    So, they're liars.

    Sure I do. What are they going to gain by falsifying their beliefs? Is there a point system whereby someone can "win" something?
    Is there a popularity contest? Conversely, what is someone losing if they don't say exactly what they believe?
     
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    He is much smarter than I am. He knows what is best for me. I only know what I think is best.
     
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    The fact that God is the most supreme of beings and that all of us will one day face Him is terrifying. Paul's words to the Philippians comes to mind:

    Philippians 2:9-11 9 For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

    In addition, we shall appear before the judgment seat of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:10).

    We can only do this without being consumed in judgment because of what Jesus Christ did on our behalf. While I know I am in Him and will not face the wrath of the Supreme Being - God, I am quite aware of my sinfulness and utter unworthiness.
     
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    It's our sin nature, and yes, we daily are in need of dying to sin. Paul expresses the struggle beautifully in Romans 7 and he shows the means of overcoming in Romans 8.
    Even Paul struggled with his flesh desiring to usurp the Supremacy of God.
     
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    All humans are liars. That includes Christians. I am absolutely confident you hide your sins from everyone around you and boldly deny if someone confronts you.
    I haven't met a human yet who reveals the inner-self and the selfish thoughts they harbor.
     
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    I'd say there thoughts are flat out terrible. Much more intense than just selfish Yet everyone of them are covered by the blood of Christ
    True I especially loved this part of it below.
    Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
    Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
    Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh.
    Since there is no condemnation for those in Christ I believe we should be about condemning the sin not our selves.
    MB
     
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    No, the question was who wrote Eph. 1:1.....according to the text.
    The answer (according to God's perfect Word) is Paul, and he didn't have a keyboard.
    o.k.
    There's no deception.
    You repeated the often falsely stated assertion that God WROTE the Bible.
    He did not, and it isn't a good view to hold.
    He inspired the men who wrote it.

    Eph. 1:1 STATES who wrote it.
    To deny the Pauline authorship of the text is to deny the text itself.

    Note: Men wrote it, God inspired the men.
    That is what the text teaches.
    It is demonstrably false that God wrote the Bible.
     
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