What difference does 270 years make?

Sorry Mioque, I made a big goof. I equated Nostardamus having his "Epistle to Henry II" as a portion of the Willibrord Bible, my mistake. I should have said that Nostradamus used the WB as reference for making his predictions; my error.

But why can't those who speak English, no matter what there native tongue, read and understand the KJB? That is ill-logic to think anyone can't.

I wasn't born anywhere near 1611. I am no more than a highschool graduate, as far as the education system evaluates me, but why can I understand the KJB? Is it I have access to a dictionary? Is it because I have spent some time on my knees and asked God for wisdom according to His Word? Couldn't it also be the same case as reading any version?

1. God
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. No

When the version is confusing and misleading, no one could completely understand the Bible. Also, no one completely understands even the KJB. there are many things that are above the understanding of even the most intelligent of men. The Words of the Bible are God-breathed. We push for easier to read versions, but men are getting farther away from what God has spoken.

I want to apologize to everyone in regards to many of my remarks in my comebacks in my posts.

But now , and this is NOT a snide remark, I hadn't realized how sensitive some are here in BB. I see that as overly sensitive, but just the same, I should have taken note to that much earlier.

I began this topic with one purpose in mind. I wanted to show how we who stand on the KJB see much of the "issue". I will still hold to what is stated in the intial post and that's just tough if that offends, but it's my right to make this stand, I have this conviction.

Many have posted showing the level of their emotionalism, that is not altogether wrong, but when it is out of control and people take such offense, well, that is wrong.

I'll fight to the death for your right to read any version you wish, I have not made any of them available, but I will not back down from my stand on the KJB. If you want to try and belittle the KJB, then go ahead, but be ready for some one just like me to confront you on your accustaion, but also allow me the same to show the truth, and your error for so doing.

 

Would you like the tables turned on you for your typos as well?

Your last statement is meant how and to whom?

Are you somehow judging by your level of education (pride) who is "stupid" and who is not?

 

The "koine" Greek is well known as the Koine Greek due to the specific time when that language was generally spoken as yall refer to it as the "language of life". That distinction needs to be understood along with the fact that the Koine Greek has not been fully understood by modern day scholars. Any honest Greek scholar will admit that fact.

Mioque, I will have to search for the website again, but that is exactly the way it read about Nostradamus. I generally don't give much credit on the surreal and predictions by those likened unto him. Maybe I simply made the mistake to understand the sites' equating his predictions with writings from the Quatrain as being the Willibrord. I really have to admit I nothing very little about the Quatrain and the Willibrord, it is nothing more than just another distratcion, not unlike many other versions are simply a waste of time for me to try and study while i have the AV 1611 KJB.

Just like I said before, the idea thinking we can define the Words of God by the means used as in a literary vocation is where man stumbles. This idea also that modrn English is so easier to understand compared to Elizabethen English is a crock. Understanding English fully requires a working knowledge of the rudiments of our language. I do not expect a foreigner to our language to understand what we ourselves still struggle at times to understand ourselves, but the Elizabethen English is much easier defined into meaning than the ever allusive plethora of words that comprise the languge of today.

What I mean is that the Elizabethen is simplistic when compared to today's English. The proof? Look at the number of words use comparably. Elizabethen English and the Bible written in it, are the pulling away of the use of Latin. I believe we all could agree if our doctors and such spoke in a relative language to the common man we also could understand much, much more about medicine.

Example of what I'm gettting to. My daughter was bitten by a spider, we took her to the local hospital. he bill from the hospital ER was $215, the bill from the doctor in ER was $189. She was in ER fro 2 1/2 hours, the doctor spent no more than 5 minutes , looked at her foot, made a comment to the nurse to give her a tetnus shot and went to the next patient. Does having a working knowledge of Latin/ the language of medicine pay $5670 an hour now? Not from my checking account it don't! I have confronted the doctor's "association who sent us the bill" with my concerns. This is where the catholic church pretty much had the general public before and leading up to 1611.

If you know your Bible history, you will have to admit the Puritans were the ones to intiate the 1611. What God saw as too strict according to the Puritan faith, He balanced out by the production of the KJB. So why would anyone object to the Bible God had given to the common folk? Is it a confession of ignorance to believe the KJB is so hard to understand? That is rather silly.

Now, if we want to understand medicine, we are left with no alternative but to learn Latin, so by that reasoning, if we want to understand the Bible, we need to know the English of the KJB.

Latin is understood, Koine Greek is still sketchy. If it weren't for the ones who practiced medicine using Latin, we wouldn't have the language of medicine as it is. People will boast a knowledge of greek, but they are hard to get them to admit there rules of Greek are a little awkward when having the general rule, failing to see there are the exceptions, that is common to every language, context is the authoritve rule in any language. Elizabethan English uses the authoritive rule of context over what others say doesn't apply, that too is rather silly.

 

Cranston, do you promote false accusations as a hobby? Will you aklso promote the "not to my taste" thinking as the general rule to understanding the Bible?

Have I ever said that anyone should not have the Bible in their native tongue?

Obviously, Obviously and NO.

How is it the KJB trnaslated into anyone's native tongue is denying them the Bible written in their own language? That is STUPENDOUS to think that!

If yall are going to keep pushing this type of jargon, well, you're shooting yourselves in the foot.