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What do teens think of Christian Rock and other forms of CCM

Discussion in 'Youth Forum' started by Guitar25, Feb 24, 2005.

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  1. I love it, i think it's a great thing

    46.9%
  2. I enjoy it somewhat

    12.5%
  3. I tolerate it, i don't really enjoy it though

    40.6%
  4. I hate it, its appalling

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  1. woodyR

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  2. KJVBibleThumper

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    I see... so to minister to a drunk one should get drunk?
     
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    ya know i think that we should praise God using that talents that we are given some people like, enjoy and are good at playing Rock music, so is it wrong for them to use this to praise God. Im not saying that everyone should like it, but you shouldnt be against and attack those who do.
     
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    Rock music is of the flesh and of the devil and you want to praise those who use it "for God"? How do you take a devils tool and use it for God?
     
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    Who are you to say that Rock music is a tool of the Devil?
     
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    KJVBibleThumper New Member

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    I have two very close friends who were in it and I have another close friend who is still in it.
    in Christ,
    KJVBibleThumper
     
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    If people listened to the message of Keith Green the church would be shaken up.

    For example the song Asleep In The Light

    Do you see, do you see, all the people sinking down,
    Don't you care, don't you care, are you gonna let them drown,
    How can you be so numb, not to care if they come,
    You close your eyes and pretend the job's done.

    Oh Bless me Lord, bless me Lord, you know it's all I ever hear,
    No one aches, no one hurts, no one even sheds one tear,
    But He cries, He weeps, He bleeds, and He cares for your needs,
    And you just lay back and keep soaking it in, oh, can't you see it's such sin?

    Cause He brings people to your door,
    And you turn them away, as you smile and say,
    God bless you, be at peace, and all Heaven just weeps,
    Cause Jesus came to your door, you've left Him out on the streets.

    Open up, open up, and give yourself away,
    You've seen the need, you hear the cry, so how can you delay,
    God's calling and you're the one, but like Jonah you run,
    He's told you to speak, but you keep holding it in,
    Oh, can't you see it's such sin?

    The world is sleeping in the dark,
    That the church can't fight, cause it's asleep in the light,
    How can you be so dead, when you've been so well fed,
    Jesus rose from the grave, and you, you can't even get out of bed,
    Oh, Jesus rose from the dead, come on, get out of your bed.

    How can you be so numb, not to care if they come,
    You close your eyes and pretend the job's done,
    You close your eyes and pretend the job's done,
    Don't close your eyes, don't pretend the job's done.
    Come away, come away, come away with Me, My love,
    Come away, from this mess, come away with Me, My love.
     
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    See the problem I am having with this entire thing is that I go to a Contemporary Worship Service on Sunday Evenings (I still go to Worship and bible study in the mornings). And I have noticed that in the morning most people are at church because they feel they have to be but in the evening we celebrate the opening of the Bible and the music is done by a local Christian Rock Band. I see more fellowship at the contemporary service than I do the regular service in the morning. So explain to me where the Devil is doing his work. I will admit that some CCM bands are not Christian they used to be but even then some gospel singers have been known to go into pop or rap music, the only example i have right now is MC Hammer


    here is the website for the evening service i go to tnova.org
     
  10. Robert B

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    Biblethumper, I will simply say that your reply to me was inadequate and not backed by anything except your opinion.

    Thanks,
    God bless.
     
  11. Ishouldbhappy

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    Tell me where you see that Christian Rock is a tool of the devil. You are just against it b/c you do not understand it.
    What you listen to does not change the fact that you are saved. Just b/c I listen to Christian rock does not mean that I worship the devil. What is the difference between listening to Christian rock and country the words and the music? And how many of you listen to country music (I do). And country music does not have Christian lyrics but you are not gunning it down calling it a tool to the devil. If it causes you to move away from God do not listen to it but if it helps you move closer to him who cares.
    Kristen
     
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    Todd Agnew - This Fragile Breath
    From the album Grace Like Rain

    I searched the world for a song that I could sing
    Praise to my King, A gift that I could bring
    But no music I found could compare to You
    Not one could do Justice to Your glory
    What are my songs compared to Yours

    Chorus:
    You speak with thunder and lightening
    Your voice shakes the mountains
    The foundations of the earth
    All I can offer is this fragile breath
    With each one I'll praise You
    With each one I'll praise You more

    I searched the world for a poem I could read
    A rhyme that would bring Glory to my King
    But no writing I found was worthy of
    This God high above all other gods
    What are my words compared to Yours

    Chorus

    Can you tell me how the devil uses this? It sounds to me like he is singing praise to God and a prayer that he will speak to him.
    Kristen
     
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    I have two very close friends who were in it and I have another close friend who is still in it.
    in Christ,
    KJVBibleThumper
    </font>[/QUOTE]Still, what authority does that give you to say that Christian Rock is unglorifying. I noticed in another post that you say rock is of the flesh and conformed to the world. I got news for you.

    EVERY MUSIC STYLE IS CONFORMED TO THE WORLD.

    It's not the style of music, its the content of the song.

    And about your post saying that a minister should get drunk as response to ours and my post. How did you get that out of what I was saying?

    I said that when a person witnesses to someone, the first need to try and relate to them and see things from there stand point. No that doesn't mean getting drunk when talking to a drunkie or stoned when talking to a drug addict for the bijillionth time. It means listening to them, hearing them out, asking questions and listening to what they have to say to see where there coming from and what is stopping them so you can better understand why they have not yet accepted Christ.

    God Bless
    Guitar 25
     
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    Keep Preachin' Bible Thumper!!

    God Bless,
    Because He lives,
    Katelyn
     
  15. Bound4Glory

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    Amy Grant "PLAYS" Joni Mithchell
    Johnny Cash "PLAYS" Danzig, Beck, SoundGarden, et. al!
    Petra "PLAYS" Argent (ditto KISS)
    77's "PLAYS" Led Zeppelin.
    DC talk "PLAYS" Doobie Brothers, Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Nirvana, REM, et. al.
    Audio Adrenaline "PLAYS" Edgar Winter
    Point of Grace "PLAYS" Earth, Wind and Fire
    Jars of Clay "PLAYS" Ozzy Osbourne
    Rez Band "PLAYS" the Who, Jefferson Airplane
    Holy Soldier "PLAYS" Rolling Stones
    Rachel, Rachel "PLAYS" Kansas
    Deliverance "PLAYS" Black Sabbath
    MXPX plays Buddy Holly
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Just thought that was kind of interesting
     
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    I found another site regarding this topic. http://www.av1611.org/cqguide.html. Though it is written by the same guy as the last site i listed..He has different arguments. Im reading it at this moment. I can say I never before really listened to Christian rock or CCM...but now I have. He has clips you can listen to of different artists. It literally made me sick to hear it. I couldnt understand half they were saying..and that, that I could understand didnt mention anything of Christ. It makes me mad/sad to think that these people are fooling the world by saying that they are "Praising the name of Jesus Christ" through these songs. I dont see how any of you can listen to that junk and still stand that it's Godly, Holy, and Acceptable By God.
     
  17. Bound4Glory

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    I hope you all will read this site in its intirety. Its way better than the other one and it focuses more on the music than the musicians (which I know alot of you had a prablem with the last one because of that). He gives plenty of scripture to back up his statements..so there is no reason to say he isnt backing it with the Bible. He has done more research than (if you were honest with yourselves) any of you have done.
     
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    Bound4Glory when i clicked the link it told me page not found, so if you could make sure its the right site that would be cool. Now I havent looked at that site yet (due to it not showing up) but (and this is a big BUT ok) I realize that some bands out there are not truely Christian Bands like in my last post
    Now you also say that you have only heard small clips of music now how do you know that he didnt just find a clip that was fitting his statement. How can you say that this site is true if you yourself have never actually listened to CCM? How can you make judgement based on what someone else has said? I have heard plenty of CCM that is actually Christian in lyrics and some that people claim to be CCM but arent.


    oh and Guitar25 i like the statement in your profile "My music is an expression of my faith. The words i sing, and write praise Him."

    [ March 31, 2005, 02:58 PM: Message edited by: ckm49er ]
     
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    who are we to point the finger and say that they are not really praising God we are not in their heart and we do not know their motives.
    Kristen
     
  20. Ishouldbhappy

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    Bound4Glory do you listen to anything other than Christian music?
    Kristen
     
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