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What is a ministry

Discussion in 'Evangelism, Missions & Witnessing' started by Salty, Mar 18, 2021.

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  1. Salty

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    Normally, when we think of a ministry, we think of a mission board, a Bible College,
    a mission serving food, printing Bible tracts and ect.

    But an individual doing at his vocational job - is that an individual -
    For example, I used to drive Taxi (just like my good BB friend Pete)oo
    I had opportunities to talk to customers.. Would you consider that a ministry?
    Do you consider yourself in ministry in other areas - say a organization you are in.
    I attended an annual political dinner and was asked to provide the invocation.

    What ministries have you had as an individual.


    NOTE: if you are one who thinks that all ministries
    must only go thru a local church -
    This is NOT the thread for that. If need be, start your own thread!
     
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    Ministry is a lot of things


    Charging $20 to attend a meeting is not ministry

    allowing people to attend for free is a ministry
     
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    Ministering is "being Christ" to other people. Ministry is doing this purposefully and consistently.
     
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    So a pastor being paid a salary is not in ministry?

    How about a mother daughter dinner on Mothers day weekend - and members are encouraged to bring a neighbor - and to pay for their meal - would that be a ministry?

    If there is a charge for a conference - then there are costs involved.
    So why would that not be a mins try?
     
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    not a ministry, a Christian event, but not a ministry

    The church should bear the burden

    JMO
     
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    To clarify

    People should be able to attend anything church related for free

    if Mrs Jones wants to kick in $500 to help then by all means allow her to do so

    if Ms Taylor who has 3 kids and is very poor wants to attend the Women’s Retreat she should be able to do so without respect to money or having to feel bad about attending when she can’t support it
     
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    To clarify more

    anything associated should come out of the Church Budget

    that is why they are there for - correct?


    Even further

    Ministry is free


    even more than that

    churches should never hold so called Christian pay for events! That is of the secular world.

    It should Not be a part of the Church

    please read all of my posts before wild haired accusations and supposed exceptions

    thanks
     
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    And BEFORE you blow me up too bad, and say that “ai hate seminars and Christians and Christian events, you are wrong”!

    they are a great tool to try to reach the unchurched and unsaved which is yet another reason that they should be free to anyone who wants to attend without obligation.

    the church should never position itself that it accepts money from nonmembers.

    yes, that includes the annual garbage sale and cake sale “for missions”. Why should churches look outside the doors for financial support?

    I thought that we were supposed to look upward?

    @rlvaughn RL should I rant even further? Lol

    everyone have a great Lords Day

    seriously, I will answer any legitimate questions regarding my views

    G/P
     
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    And another thing!!

    We are the church, we need to act like it!
     
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    We as true believers have the Christ that the world needs!

    now I’m done
     
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    I agree. We should not charge people to attend church, any ministries/services we host, and should not look to others outside our church to support the work of our church.
     
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    It is merchandising the Gospel. IMO
     
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    * edited to be PR


    FWIW

    Let me give you an actual example.

    Back in the 60's - our church was involved in a Bible camp - at that time tuition for week of camp was $20. Most families had no problem paying that amount. In addition, most kids brought $2 for the Snack Shack. (candy= 5 cents, soda & ice cream =10 cents)
    There was a family in our church that apparently had little. So the church would ask other families to pay the tuition for underprivileged kids. My dad was one to do so. However, he had forgotten to take the check to church. So Sun night he told me about and asked me to take the check with me - (I was teenage staff that year) but NOT to tell anyone that he was the provider. I then mentioned the snack shack - - He gave me 50cents so he would buy a candy bar each day. ---- Well, I took care of the check, so that the boy never knew who paid. In addition, one of my jobs was to work the Snack Shack. That first night - that boy bought about 50 cents of items. I was very surprised - so I asked him how much money he brought. He told me FIVE dollars. -- When I got home that weekend - I gave the 50 cents back to Dad - I told him what happend. Boy, did he hit the roof. This kid brought enough money to pay 25% of camp tuition! And that $5 was more than double what most kids brought.!


    So "Maroonca -

    1) Should a Bible camp charge tuition t)o attend
    2) Should a church pay the tuition for all who attend
    3) if a child cannot afford and the church does not pay - then what
    4) If the church does pay - what about the snack shack?
    5- other comments.
     
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    So "Maroonca -

    1) Should a Bible camp charge tuition t)o attend

    Churches should bear the burden or not go

    2) Should a church pay the tuition for all who attend

    Yes

    3) if a child cannot afford and the church does not pay - then what

    why would a Church choose not to pay for members that are poor? Shouldn’t all be allowed to go regardless of finances?


    4) If the church does pay - what about the snack shack?

    why can’t the church give $5 to each attendee?


    5- other comments.
     
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    I do not want to draw too much of a battle line here; however,

    which is best?

    1. week of church camp

    2. A 3-4 Day seminar at church where a couple of major Doctrines ie God, Church, Salvation etc are explored

    3. A week of “Bible School” for everyone -2-3 hrs per night



    I still believe that we do not well by having Churches segregated by age.

    I am for 2 and 3 but I am an old fat white guy, so what do I know
     
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    Because our church is poor - and barely pays the bills as sit is
     
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    Understand that you are a unique exception

    that’s why I had the other options of seminars or Bible School

    you could reach out to others for less than $100
     
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    Well, if you send us a check for $100 - after we pay the bills - then we will have $20 for the children's ministry.
     
    #18 Salty, Sep 4, 2021
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