What Is A Predenominational Christian?

And that is baptismal regeneration, making baptism a part of salvation.

 

If the unregenerate state is the condition of mind and heart as described in Ephesians 4:18-19 then is not repentance the the evidence that this state described in Ephesians 4:18-19 has already been changed? Since you require evidence of this internal change BEFORE baptism then that proves baptism is not part of regeneration or changing the unregenerate condition of the mind and heart:

Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

 

Yes, you do agree because you do not allow for regeneration to occur outside the waters of baptism. However, the fact that you demand evidence of repentance BEFORE baptism demonstrates that regeneration must occur BEFORE baptism as regeneration is the change of the mind and heart from the state described in Ephesians 4:18 and no one will submit to baptism while in that state:

Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

 

I see that some have begun a new denomination.

The new denomination is predenomination.

 

Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:


So does your theory of God's prevenient grace CHANGE this inward state of ENMITY toward God and refusal to submit to God, and this inward ignorance of God, this inward blindness of heart or do you baptize them in order to have this changed?

If you baptize them to have it changed that is called baptismal regeneration. IF you admit it is changed by prevenient grace than that is regeneration prior to baptism.

By the way, how do you get a person who is at enimity with God, refusing to submit to God's authority, with a darkned understanding to be baptized???

 

No, it is total rebellion against God without any accountability to anyone to beleive and do as you will. It is the perfect partner with Ephesians 4:18.

 

Again, what does repentance before Baptism require within the mind and heart of that person that would prevent the described state in Ephesians 4:18 to remain unchanged until baptism? John demanded some bring forth "fruits meet for repentance" BEFORE baptism. What must happen to the describe unregenerate state of mind and heart before such is possible???

So Romans 10:10 occurs in baptism not before baptism? How then do you know who to baptize?

 

There is no denomination but predenomination. You have made up your own denomination, just like any cult leader does. Ask any leader of any cult they will tell you the same thing. They do not believe in denominations, nor recognize them. That is why they started their own cult.

 

I don't recall anyone in New Testament times claiming to be "predenominational"?? You think by simply parroting your heresy it becomes truth? You have yet to establish it as truth. You have yet to overcome the objections that have been presented to disprove your position.

 

If you are different than any other denomination you are in fact a denomination. There is no way around that. Being against denominations is itself a denomination if it is an organized church.

 

I don't recall anyone in the New Testament using it as a descriptive either!

Again, how can you justify having candidates for baptism who are yet unrepentant and unbelievers prior to the act of baptism??? John would not accept such - Mt. 3:6-8.

 

You gave him a loop hole when you used the word "organized."

He does not believe that a leader over a flock, with ordinances, a set of beliefs and pratices, with a set agenda, and regulaly appointed services with guidelines for discipline and removal of membership is an "organized" church.

 

Again, do your candidates for baptism have any change of mind and heart from what is described in Ephesians 4:18 as the unregenerate condition BEFORE you baptize them?

 

You were the one that put it as the "title" for your denomination in your profile. You condemn yourself.