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What is Biblical Inerrancy?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by JustChristian, Jun 3, 2008.

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  1. No current Bible translation contains any errors

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  2. Current Bible translations are inerrant in message but contain some factural errors

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  3. The original manuscripts of the Bible were inerrant but errors were introduced in translation

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  4. The original manuscripts of the Bible were inerrant in message but contained some factual errors

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  5. There are no differences between different versions of the Bible

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  6. Only the King James translation of the Bible is without error

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  7. Only the King James translation is inerrant in message but it does contain factural errors

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  1. Rippon

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    I agree. That's really what I had in mind. It just didn't come out that way! Also, I agree that the term "factual errors" isn't clear either. That probably should have been "minor inconsistencies."
     
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    Eve removed the word "every" in her reply to Satan as well (Subtracting from Gen 2:16).
     
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    Perseverance of the saints - doctrine asserts that, since God is sovereign and his will cannot be frustrated by humans or anything else, those whom God has called into communion with himself will continue in faith until the end. Those who apparently fall away either never had true faith to begin with or will return. (wikipedia)

    How can one believe that God can do this but cannot preserve His Word as he said he would?
     
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    Who has said that God has not preserved His word?
    I looked over this thread and didn't see that anywhere.
    If someone has said that then shame on them but thus far I have now seen anyone say that.
     
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    King James

    If a bible can't attach Holy to it, i would waste my time reading it comparing it to the KJ
     
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    Are we to assume that you're more interested in the cover than the content?
     
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    Tim LaHaye PROPHECY STUDY BIBLE (AMG Publishers, 2000) does not have the world 'holy' on the front, back, Title Page, nor spine. It does say it is a King James Version (KJV) but not which KJV it is - maybe it is one of the unholy KJVs?


    Grant R. Jeffrey's KJV Prophecy Study Bible (Zondervan, 1998)) does not have the world 'holy' on the front, back, Title Page, nor spine. It does say it is a King James Version (KJV) but not which KJV it is - maybe it is one of the unholy KJVs?
     
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    Assume

    No, I just have chosen to do that after hearing some verses in a translation without Holy and found out why they wouldn't attach it. Like I was following in my NASB with hebrew and greek dictionary and they were reading from the message. Mine said any sin the message saids titheing.

    The context is what matter but I have chosen to not read one's that the writter couldn't even attach Holy to it.

    If it is a good translation then they shouldn't be ashamed.

    I just said which translation I read and found them to be good translations.

    Holy doesn't matter, but the context does.

    It is in my case the one I did read didn't match up.
     
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    So you're arguing that God's preserving His word does NOT mean the the original, inerrant, inspired manuscripts are preserved without change? Maybe the minor discrepencies that exist in today's translations are a message to us that the Bible is primarily to convey the gospel message with the Old Testament as an introduction or background, not a history or science book although these are part of the Bible story.

    Personally, I see the question of inerrancy as a non-issue since there's no way to prove it either way. rather than non-issue maybe I should say matter of faith. This faith is not to be confused with the kind of faith that changes our lives and ultimately saves us from Hell.

    My position is that inerrancy is not a valid litmus test for Christians. Incorrect doctrine like Jesus was not devine or he did not die on the cross for our sins are the REAL issues.
     
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    It means to me that only the KJV is without error.
     
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    That is blatantly ridiculous. Do you know how the bible was put together? I guess I could go around and say only the Septuigent is without error.
     
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    Have you, through years Biblical study, determined this for yourself, or did you just believe what someone else said about the KJV?

    So, is my NKJV filled with errors? Where are they? Book, chapter and verse please.

    Is my wife's NASB filled with errors? Where are they? Book, chapter and verse please.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm not anti-KJV. I just don't buy into the error (I'd rather say foolishness, but that wouldn't be nice) of KJV-onlyism.
     
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    Biblical Inerrancy

    Dale,
    I agree with your point. I don't think anyone has said, "I don't believe God has preserved His Word". It is a good point. The question is: If you believe in the Preservation of the Scriptures....Where is it preserved?

    1) Is it preserved in one text?
    2) Is it preserved in all texts?
    3) Is it preserved in a few of the texts?

    Please these are open questions.

    Bartimaeus
     
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    Biblical Inerrancey

    Let's put the shoe on the other foot.

    Can you say with absolute faith that your NKJV and your wife's NASB is the veritable Word of God?
    Is it wholly and completely the Word of God? Does every word in your bibles carry the authority of God?

    Bartimaeus
     
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    Biblical Inerrancy

    BaptistBeliever,
    Please forgive me if I have misunderstood what you are saying.
    1) Inerrancy is a non-issue.
    2) Inerrancy is a matter of faith.
    3) Inerrancy is not as important in the matter of faith as faith that changes our lives.
    4) Inerrancy is not as important in the matter of faith as faith that saves us from hell.
    5) Inerrancy as a matter of faith is not as important as the Divinity of Christ or His substitutionary death.

    Just requesting you to validate or clarify.

    Bartimaeus
     
  18. Bartimaeus

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    Biblical Inerrancy

    Archer, Lyons and Vestrum are good authors who can provide an anwer to your question.
    I specifically agree with the answer that states that there is a big difference to men and "valient" men. I was in the military a long time and there is a difference. The Lord knows the difference also.

    Bartimaeus
     
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    The apostles and Christians during the early centuries of Christianity used the Septuagint, in places a rather loose and free version of the Hebrew Scriptures.

    How do you think they would answer your question?

    But since you asked,
    Yeah, I have absolute faith that the multiple versions I use are the word of God to me and to the community that uses them.

    ...and as the individual words communicate God's message, they too are authoritative.

    Yikes, I'm begining to sound like Ed. :laugh: :saint:

    Small errors in transmission/translation are interesting to work through but are generally a non-issue in regards to our eternal destiny.

    Rob
     
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