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If man doesn't have the natural ability to believe, then why isn't every unsaved person on the planet locked up in a mental institution because they don't BELIEVE it's safe to walk out of the house without getting shot or captured by aliens? They don't believe they're spouse loves them. They don't believe they are even real. They don't believe there is a creation (even though Romans 1:17 says they do). They don't believe in being good (even though Romans 2 says they show the law of God demonstrated from their conscience).

With all of this inability to believe, it's a wonder there are any unsaved people on Earth AT ALL

 

Why don't you cowards quit beating around the bush and just admit that you don't believe anyone but a Calvinist is saved. It's getting ready old to hear all of this clandestine rhetoric saying it all but straight-forward. Good night just be honest for once in your lives.

 

Especially since it is God's will that all come to Him.
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Your bellicose obnoxiousness is what's getting really old.

 

You left out part of the scripture;

Acts 11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?

God gave Cornelius the like gift as he gave the Jews on the day of Pentacost for the same reason, because he had "believed on the Lord Jesus Christ".

The scriptures ALWAYS show that faith and believing precedes a person receiving the Spirit and being regenerated.

No man can be spiritually alive until he first believes, because we are justified by faith. Until you believe you remain in and are dead in your trespasses and sins.

 

ACH,
i answered you on this yesterday...you might have missed it...so here is an encore presentation---
Ach

It is not for a Calvinist or a non Calvinist to know who is saved.Only God reads and knows the heart. God alone knows who is SAVED...because salvation is 100% of God.
It is against BB rules to question anyone's salvation here on BB.
So in the judgement of charity we try and view each poster who professes saving faith to be an actual believer.
That being said...we do read your posts and have an opinion on what you post.

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved! A saving belief is God given. This admission of your hatred for for the sovereignty of God and confessing you are a fool is a good step towards repentance and faith
All manner of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven to everyone who is savingly drawn to truth.

While Calvinism expanded and biblically explained is the gospel, not everyone who is saved understands many things in the bible. So we are to seek to edify one another and grow in grace and understanding of the truth.
Many who do not understand these things at first , come to learn and grow ,and study themselves into the truth...so we are not to judge them as they belong to God. We are to befaithful to feed the sheep, and protect them from false teaching wolves who like the fowls of the air seek to take away the seed of the word.

Not so....there is always a full spectrum of beliefs and conditions of the people on here, or in a local church.

When someone is shaky in their understanding...better to proceed with caution and try and point them and correct their understanding of scripture.
If they are being drawn but not yet saved...the Spirit will work through the word being sown. If they are saved and have been exposed to some false teaching, or never really heard the truth explained correctly
God will use the person who is taught to help the young believer along.
If they are NOT BORN FROM ABOVE...they will be religious,but fight and resist truth at every turn because-
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

That is correct.The person who believes in a salvation by works cannot be saved unless and until they repent and believe the gospel of grace.

You have a habit of doing this. You over-think and try and project your thoughts on us. We do not think "all" are heretics or unsaved....however that is indeed possibly the case.

In BB land Cals seek to operate within the guidelines set up by BB.That set of rules limits what can be expressed and how it can be expressed.

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Again...we take someone at their profession,but pay attention to the warning signs..

Some of the Cals were at one time opposed to the teaching they now embrace, so why would they do that knowing at one time they did not see as clearly as they do now? Some other brothers came along,confronted them with scripture...you know , what benjamin speaks against as proof -texting...but then the Spirit worked through those verses or sermons and they saw clearly what was there all the time.

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Not at all.Several non cals are sincere. They are the ones who will study themselves into a more scriptural position in time.

Ach....i do not think you can say that I have not been quite blunt with you, as you have mentioned i have gone after you right from the start.

I despise much of what you post...not so much as your non cal ideas...but the talebearing and evil speaking of calvinists, and in particular DR.White which is disgraceful in how you have an irrational hatred of Him.Perhaps fueled by envy, it is not much different that Cain and Abel.

If you remain non cal that is between you and God.Unless you repent of the ungodly posting about Dr.White and some of the other brothers...it will work toward you being judged according to your works:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

Yes...this was recorded in the 1960's under poor conditions....most of His messages were...Glad you worked through it to catch the simple and yet profound truth in the message. I also could do without the screaming,lol but I find in several of his messages some good insight....
I listen to this one several times a year- in fact i will listen now during my dinner break...

http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=311131546212
This explains why many miss the truth of God's grace!!!

 

Can't disagree with anything here.

I'm neither of Calvin or Arminius but I think everyone could agree with your post.

HankD

 

Correct. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: J10:26

 

Originally Posted by percho View Post
He was, "of my sheep."


Send therefore to Joppa, and call hither Simon, whose surname is Peter; he is lodged in the house of [one] Simon a tanner by the sea side: who, when he cometh, shall speak unto thee. Acts 10:32

Peter spoke and told him how he and family would be saved.

And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; Acts 10:39,40

The death and resurrection of Jesus is the faith heard of by which anyone who is saved was/is saved.

As you posted. 14 Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved. Acts 11:14

15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.------Why did the Holy Spirit fall on them. Because God was setting them apart as believers unto salvation therefore God gave them the Holy Spirit as a result of their: This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Gal. 3:2

They heard of the faith by which salvation comes to man and were given the Holy Spirit.


But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: John 10:26,27

The sheep are translated from ignorant unbelief unto belief. They become believers and are given the the Holy Spirit as an earnest.

 

A question for all.

Dr James I think I read you are Jewish. Please give me your thoughts.

Joel 2:32 And it hath come to pass, Every one who calleth in the name of Jehovah is delivered, For in mount Zion and in Jerusalem there is an escape, As Jehovah hath said, And among the remnants whom Jehovah is calling!


Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. Acts 15:14

This I believe began on Pentecost and is continuing unto this day.

Verse 16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

After this taking out a people from the Jew first and also the Gentile, Jesus will return and set up/rebuild the tabernacle/house of David in Jerusalem/Zion.

Why?

Verse 17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and (Just as in the remnant in Joel 2:32 the called)all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.


Who are these people? This residue of men?

But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. John 10:26

Can whosoever will come and drink? See also John 7:37-39

And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Rev. 22:17

Is Jesus speaking as The Prophet in John 7:37 In the last day, that great [day] of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. The last day of the feast of Tabernacles which would be in the past tense in Rev. 22:17

 

Fiction

I did not exclude John 17 verses, I showed you ripped them out of context. All you followed up with is a generalized dismissive statement.

Please explain how the men in Matthew 23:13 managed to be entering heaven if they had no natural ability to believe. You have no answer, so you again resort to making a general assertion without any support in scripture.

To the contrary, there is support for the gospel having the power of God to salvation, with no mention of the gift of faith, or the effectual call, or irresistible grace, or whatever Calvinism is calling it this week.

Next we get the fiction of Paul's supernatural conversion. He certainly had a supernatural witness, Christ Himself, to get his attention and show him the error of his ways. But, what did Paul say? What shall I do Lord? Paul understood he had been misguided, and had come to his senses. Calvinism here tries to use a supernatural intervention and misrepresent it as a supernatural conversion via irresistible grace. Not how it reads. Paul says he was not disobedient to the heavenly vision. Teaching of course he chose to obey. The exact opposite of the Calvinism claim.

 

Here we have the typical Calvinist, attacking me personally, from a holier than thou perspective. I am shocked, shocked I say, that Calvinists would demean those holding alternate views.

I missed your answer for Matthew 23:13 teaching men were entering heaven, and thus seeking God, without some limited spiritual ability to understand the milk of the gospel.