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What is our country? Our government? Do we know who/what we are? Really!

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by windcatcher, Apr 30, 2010.

  1. windcatcher

    windcatcher New Member

    Apr 28, 2007
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    Wikipedia states:
    A corporation is an institution that is granted a charter recognizing it as a separate legal entity having its own privileges, and liabilities distinct from those of its members.[1] There are many different forms of corporations, most of which are used to conduct business.

    Corporations exist as a product of corporate law, and their rules balance the interests of its stakeholders: the management who operate the corporation; creditors who loan it goods, services or money; shareholders who invest their capital; the employees who contribute their labor; and the clients they serve.[2] In modern times, corporations have become an increasingly dominant part of economic life.

    An important feature of corporation is limited liability. If a corporation fails, shareholders normally only stand to lose their investment, and employees will lose their jobs, but neither will be further liable for debts that remain owing to the corporation's creditors.

    Despite not being natural persons, corporations are recognized by the law to have rights and responsibilities like actual people. Corporations can exercise human rights against real individuals and the state,[3] and they may be responsible for human rights violations.[4] Just as they are "born" into existence through its members obtaining a certificate of incorporation, they can "die" when they lose money into insolvency. Corporations can even be convicted of criminal offences, such as fraud and manslaughter.[5]

    Although corporate law varies in different jurisdictions, there are five core characteristics of the business corporation:[6]
    Legal personality
    Limited liability
    Transferable shares
    Centralized management under a board structure
    Shared ownership by contributors of capital.
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    Huh? (You're asking, while scratching your head in thought.) 'Just what does this have to do with you/me or our government?'

    Well, to be honest with the readers and membership here on BB, I don't know either.... but I've found some interesting facts. Also some articles with a variable level of ambiguity. (I wish I had printing capacity so hard copy studies could be done so I could make notes in margins.)
    FACTS FOLLOW below this line:
    District of Columbia
    Oganic Act of 1871

    (bold-- mine)

    (authentic link) http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llsl&fileName=016/llsl016.db&recNum=0454
    (the same but easier to read on same page)
    [from the last link I borrow this description of the above:]
    The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 aka “An Act to provide a Government for the District of Columbia (41st Congress, 3d Sess., ch. 62, 16 Stat. 419, enacted 1871-02-21) is an Act of Congress, which revoked the individual charters of the City of Washington, the City of Georgetown, and the County of Washington and created a new city government for the entire District of Columbia. The legislation effectively merged what had been separate municipalities within the federal territory into a single entity. It is for this reason that the city, while legally named the District of Columbia, is still commonly known as Washington, D.C.

    My interest in this discussion is has this act of 1871 altered our perception and relationship of our government or its relationship to us as it exists today? Some links discussing this follow the solid line below, but possibly relevant to this is the information that there existed already the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1801 which is located in entirety here: http://www.nikolasschiller.com/blog/index.php/archives/2009/01/29/2213/
    Links discussing this follow;
    This link discusses corporation and relationships. Relevant to that discussion is its referral to Myth No. 22 at the following link:
    The above last link is most interesting for reasons other than studying myth 22, so one may wish to refer again when discussing politics, law, rights, constitution, conspiracies, etc..
    The last link seems to dispell any concerns.... but it is interesting in how it relates to the discussion of myths at team law:
    If one is interested in controversy, perhaps the following link may prove interesting.... though at this time, I regard it as questionable:

    Anyone come across these questions of identity or have any opinions?
    #1 windcatcher, Apr 30, 2010
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  2. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

    Mar 30, 2004
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    We are either Hamilton's dream or Jefferson's nightmare.
    #2 poncho, Apr 30, 2010
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