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Featured What led you to depart from Dispensational teachings?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Iconoclast, Dec 5, 2017.

  1. Iconoclast

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    It might be helpful to offer 5 or 6 things that you were no longer confident were the teaching of scripture.
    Most of us were at first exposed to the Dispensational Premill scheme.

    List some examples,and offer your thoughts, here is one example;

    in the supposed earthly 1000 yr Kingdom..... were you ever comfortable with the idea.....of The Glorified Lord Jesus Christ on earth with unsaved sinners who eventually rise up in rebellion against God himself as if they could do any such thing?

    There are many such examples....but it might be helpful to offer what things caused you to question that system which you were first taught.:Cautious
     
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    For me, the overriding reason for my abandoning Dispensationalism was when I became convinced that J.N. Darby was wrong on his rapture view. The passages Darby, Scofield, and Chafer used to support a pre-wrath rapture of the church (notably 1 Cor. 15:52; 1 Thes. 4:17) applied to the second coming, not the rapture. A second, but non-exegetical reason, was that Dispensationalism remained hidden from the Church for nearly 1800 years. A third reason is the convincing biblical case that God works throughout human history by covenants, not dispensations.
     
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    My soteriology changed first, and part of that soteriology was the covenants. I didn't question the semi-Pelagian, dispensational brand of Christianity I received from the church I attended as a teenager until my view of soteriology could no longer hold water. It actually never could, and it bothered me for 20 years, but I didn't have the resources, such as good teachers or books addressing the subject, but once that was remedied I became Reformed and that lead to rethinking my view of eschatology.
     
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    For me it was the discovery that the same apocalyptic language in the OT is also used in NT.

    Also the dawning realization that the Synoptic end times narratives, when cross referenced with each, could not be kept separate in two time periods, one in AD70 the other still future.
     
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    Galatians 3:16-18
     
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    My question is how did you ever get into it in the 1st place?
     
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    Good point...but why are you not wearing your Christmas hat?
     
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    Not in the Christmas spirit this year, but thanks for the reminder.
     
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    Being taught it at a young age.
     
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    Yes as a new Christian looked around and found a Baptist church.
    They taught basic ideas and teaching.A friend was going to a premill bible school in Clark's Summit Pa.
    I visit the bookstore there a bought some books in the bookstore to go with the ones my friend had given me. THE basis of premillenial faith,Things to Come, and many paperbacks...
    I liked some of the charts on the 7 dispensational they taught, bought a Scofield bible, and listened to tapes from believers Chapel....S.Lewis Johnson,William mcrae,etc......it was a lot to take in, but When I audited a few classes the teaching of that school was if you were not premill you were outside of the truth.
     
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    John Hagee must be going crazy right now with Trump's impending announcement on moving the US embassy to Jerusalem. Now is the time to buy Real Estate cheap from your Dispensationalist friends!

    *Sorry Couldn't resist* LOL
     
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    Also during the 90s I came across "The Parousia" by Russell. I figured it was worth my time since it had a forward by RC Sproul. But I disagreed very much with it, scribbling angry notes in the margin. I read it again more carefully. This was probably the one book outside the Bible that eventually pulled me out of my variant of dispensationalism, Prewrath.
     
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    Thats where my brother learned it too...In Clarks Summit aka Baptist Bible College.
     
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    I never got into them. I encountered Scofield at university, queried the teaching with Pastor who explained the amil teaching from Scripture.
     
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    Come over here Brit and see...you will be amazed:Laugh
     
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    Nothing has led me to depart.
     
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    I no longer hold to there being a separate rapture, but do still hold to premil Kingdom, and that God still has plans for national Israel still!
     
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    too bad that book is not very biblical though!
     
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    There were also those cheesy movies that did not help

    Distant thunder....Grandma is baking cookies...she gets raptured next thing you know not see tribulation the Antichrist troops are marching down the street to come and get all the religious people that are left....

    Those movies were bad but as reform said the lack of a continuity and teaching of the covenants was too much to overcome
     
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