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What Says the President About Ground Zero Church

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Dragoon68, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. Dragoon68

    Dragoon68 Active Member

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    Not so fast or easy there, friend! I didn't say anything about property rights - one way or the other - which is not the issue and not the end of the discussion.

    The issue is that there is no good reason for the President of the USA to give his support to the building of the mosque at this or any other location and there is good reason to see his actions as unmerited political support for Islam which in turn has often supported the actions of the very terrorists that destroyed the WWTC right next to where they want build their stinking mosque.

    Likewise the conduct of the Port Authority in dealing with permits and grants for this new mosque as compared to their actions in dealing with the re-construction of a church destroyed in the attack are also an issue.

    Our law will be used against us more and more by our enemies because they are able to manipulate those who can't understand just what's happening.

    And, as for private property rights, none of us are able to do anything and everything we want with the property we own even as fundamental that concept is to our nation. Property rights are limited by the property rights of others around your property and, in many cases, the purposes for which you want to use "your" property. We live in a world of zoning restrictions, estate laws, and property taxes that restrict and control our rights. Churches are very often denied building permits in cities around the country because, in the opinion of authority having jurisdiction, the church would introduce traffic problems or other nuisances to surrounding property owners. This mosque would most definitely be a nuisance in the location proposed.

    Also, take a look at the book that head of this mosque has written and the translation of its title which demonstrates that it is designed to be a stake in the heart of the USA.
     
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    carpro Well-Known Member
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    You must not live in the U.S. There have been zoning laws for decades. Private citizens cannot even now do anything they want with their property.

    It's not only an oversimplification, it'a based on a false premise.
     
  3. Dragoon68

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    Here's something from Neal Bortz for you all to think about real hard:

    "Since the Imam isn't talking about the Mosque ... maybe you can just rely on some of the things he has already done and said. Perhaps you might like to consider the support he has shown for the Islamic terrorist organization known as Hamas. Maybe you might even want to read his book. In America his book is titled "What's Right with Islam is What's Right with America." Or maybe you might like to read that very same book in Arabic! They didn't use the same title .. the book is the same, but the title is different. If you get the Arabic version of the Imam's book the title will be "A Call for Dawa from the World Trade Center Rubble" Now the only part of that phrase you might not understand is the word "Dawa." So let's replace that word with one that infidels will understand and re-state the title to the Imam's book:
    "A Call For The Spread of Islam From the World Trade Center Rubble"
    Yup .. that's the guy behind the World Trade Center Mosque! That's the guy your taxpayer dollars are being spent to fly around the world on some sort of strange diplomatic mission. A Muslim Imam who wants to gather Muslims in the rubble of the World Trade Center to pray for the spread of Islam. How very wonderful."


    Go ahead and fall for the peaceful Islamic "religion" if you will but I think it's just a front for terrorism right in our own back and, in the case, the front yard.
     
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    The Bill of Rights section of the Constitution of the United States.
     
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    Wrong! The dinner with the Isalmic radicals he's supporting was most likely the germ that caused the infection.

    If he were so concerned about issues such as those in the Bill of Rights he'd stand up against things like the confiscation of private property by cities to hand over to private developers.
     
  6. matt wade

    matt wade Well-Known Member

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    I never said that the laws of this country reflected what I believe. I simply stated my belief.
     
  7. matt wade

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    Surely a topic for another thread.
     
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    carpro Well-Known Member
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    Could be time for a dose of reality. :tonofbricks:
     
  9. matt wade

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    Should we all then stop believing that abortion is murder, just because the laws of the land are different?

    Oh, not on that one, eh? We should only get a "dose of reality" when you say so, right? :rolleyes:
     
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    Reality is reality. Not matter who says so.

    Using any other issue to excuse your unrealistic idealism on this one doesn't change what the reality is.
     
  11. Dragoon68

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    Here are more stupid comments by a person that shouldn't be in Washington representing the people.

    Pelosi Suggests Probe of Funding Sources Behind Opposition to Mosque Near Ground Zero

    She just can't seem to understand that what's "funding" the opposition is the people's understanding of the significance of the President's support for the construction of a radical Islamic mosque right next to the site of a deadly attack against us by people that radical Islam supports. Sure, Ms. Pelosi, it's at "conspiracy" to keep our liberty by insisting our elected officials not encourage this garbage in our country.
     
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