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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by church mouse guy, May 8, 2013.

  1. poncho

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    You don't know who Brookings corporate sposors are? Why not?

    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/03/naming-names-your-real-government.html?m=1

    Here's a list. Who sponsors Brookings? Foriegn banks corporations and the whole military industrial complex. Which of these sponsors stand to gain from war? You wanna different foreign policy? Take it out of the hands of those who stand to gain from more bigger and endless war.
     
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    "It's easy. We marched 'em in. We can turn around and march 'em out"

    Ron Paul ( 2008 Republican debates)

    After leaving we can talk about changing our foreign aid policies.
     
  3. church mouse guy

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    In the case of Afghanistan, all we can do it seems is leave. There is going to be a big bloodbath there the day after we leave. Some American general whose name I have lost said that the first rule about fighting a mountain war was not to fight a mountain war. Afghanistan is also a drug producing nation. It may be that we keep the enclave we have there until 2016. That might serve the interest of Afghanistan, the USA, Pakistan, India and Russia.

    We have to contain Islam and degrade their military capacity.
     
  4. poncho

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    In that case don't you think it would be wise to stop the democrats and republicans that keeping sending arms and money to the radical islamists? What part of our government runs Al Qaeda don't you get?

    We arrmed and funded them in Afganistan to fight Russians. We arrmed them in Libya to overthrow Qadaffi NATO provided the air support. They're flying the black Al Qaeda flag in Tripoli. The US sate dept hired them to guard the consulate in Benghazi. We're funding and arming them in Syria. Through Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

    I mean every mainstrean news source has been reporting it. Don't you read the news?

    Our government, democrats and republicans is the single biggest supporter of the islamic jihadis on the planet! What's so hard to understand about that? Weren't you following what's going on in Libya? Did you turn off the tv when we started sending arms and money to the jihadis in Syria through Saudi Arabia and Turkey? Did you not hear John McCain throw his fit because Obama wasn't doing enough to help them? Who do you think the "rebels" are unarmed protesters with rocket propelled grenades and heavy machine guns that ransack christian churches and chop people's heads off by accident?
     
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  5. church mouse guy

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    Poncho, I agree with you that we should not give arms to these people, but in Afghanistan we do have some allies, as we did in Iraq, but it is tough in the Islamic world. The Arab world of tribes is badly divided as the British learned with Lawrence in Damascus.

    Egypt is the one that I do not understand why we are arming since the Muslim Brotherhood has taken over. Libya was a mixed bag because of Lockerbie and it turns out that the new President there likes us but, of course, Obama does not like him and allowed Susan Rice to insult him.

    Frankly, Syria is another hopeless case. Turkey was let into NATO on the basis that it used to be a secular state since the collapse of the Ottoman empire but lately the jihadists have been gaining ground in Turkey. Turkey is a secret ally of Israel--somewhat like Jordan. As for the Saudis, they are also mixed but generally are enemies of the Persians and therefore our friends. Obama has made things worse. Morocco is another disgusting case because they are a major drug producer.

    The problem with Islam is that once you become a member you cannot leave without having the death penalty applied to you. So I think that we have to hold on to our friends as part of the containment of our Islamofascist enemies, but I am just a casual observer--an expert on nothing with opinions on everything.

    Poncho, if you saw Black Hawk Down, remember that it took the Pakistanis 10 or 12 hours to rescue us in Mogadishu. So our friends are not too reliable and we need to calculate that they have divided loyalties and historically have been slow to do the right thing.
     
  6. poncho

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    Have you tried buy ammo lately? Online or otherwise? There is none. I surfed over to the sportsman's guide, sold out. Cheaper than dirt? Sold out. Walmart? Same thing. My point?

    The government is arming our enemies while doing it's best to disarm us one way or anther.

    The islamists are usfeul CMG. Give em guns and a cause they'll kill each other by the thousands to do business with the international companies Hussien and Qadaffi were weary of. And they make for a great boogey monster to scare the sleepy population of citizens here into surrendering our liberties.

    They're about the handiest tool the globalists have in their pouch right now. Why would the globalists want to stop them from spreading? How would that beneifit them?
     
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  8. poncho

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    Which Path To Persia

    To say Brookings is of big-business, by big-business and for big-business is a serious understatement. This is crucial to keep in mind as we examine their designs toward Iran and consider the terrible cost every single option they are considering has towards everyone but, unsurprisingly, their own bottom-lines.

    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/02/brookings-which-path-to-persia.html?m=1
     
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    Speaking of bottom lines . . .

    The bottom line on foreign policy is that if we really want to change it for the better we have to take it out of the people's hands that stand to benefit from war. This isn't a left vs right issue as we're being led to belive by the corporate backed think tanks, the corporate backed media and the corporate backed democrats and repuplicans.

    It's an issue of the foreign banks and corporations vs the populations they are holding hostage with their control over western governments and the mass media. Nothing is going to change for the better by putting "the other side" in chrarge of foreign policy so long as both sides are working for the same foreign interests.
     
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