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Featured What single entity does not need any proof?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by 37818, Aug 23, 2019.

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    Believing in God is based on faith, so no proof is needed.
     
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    Nonsense. Not anything is true becaues it is believed. Faith is to be based on truth. God is not based on faith, rather faith is based on truth which originates with God Who Is the fundamental basis of all else that exists. God being the self Existent Existence.
     
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    But He has provide proof to us thru general and specific revelation!
     
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    God Himself is His own basis of proof being the uncaused Existence. The problem is the unsaved mankind who do not know God. Romans 3:11, "There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. " Faith in general originates with natural revelation of God's creation, Romans 10:17-18.
     
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    No, it is only because you believe in the truth of God. You have not seen Him, nor have you yet to see His heavenly abode. It is all based on the faith of the individual - that is why Christianity is known as the Christian faith.
     
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    For myself, no proof is needed. My belief in the Virgin birth, miracles, the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ all exist because I have faith that they all have actually happened.
     
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    As a Christian I know God. And God to be the invisible omnipresent uncaused existence, by which anything else that exists exists in. To quote the Apostle Paul, "In God we live and move and have our existence."
     
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    Fideism.
     
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    You would not know anything of that though apart from the Scriptures!
     
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    I could have received that information orally, passed down in that manner through the generations.
     
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    What single entity does not need any proof?

    The sun.
     
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    As anything which is obvious to exist. Existence is the fundamental common entity which is presumed about all obvious things.
     
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    Like my cup of coffee.
     
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    How could you be sure that it was true information?
     
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    As sure as the information that was written down.
     
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    Well you disagree with the Apostle Peter who heard God speak from Heaven. 2 Peter 1:16-21, ". . . For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. . . ."
     
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    Faith is how anyone knows anything. Either there is some kind of evidence or witness that is believed. Otherwise faith becomes nothing more than wishful thinking.
     
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